Originally posted by brygivrob
I too have loved reading NDE accounts for years. A very famous one that brought tears to my eyes and gave me a high that lasted for days(yours got tears welling up for me too--God and life are indeed so beautiful; death is a mystical and glorious secret!) is the NDE of Howard Storm. You can probably find it by googling it.

Seeker, thank you so much for sharing.

I have read his account,friend, and it is very good; may I suggest to you to read up on Dannion Brinkley; he has had numerous nde's, and they actually made a movie about him,with Eric Roberts playing the lead, called "saved by the light."

Death is not a thing I fear now, for it is a blink and then the feeling of freedom that comes with it is indescribable.

Thanks,friend, for sharing your words and thoughts with us.

Peace.
seeker

Originally posted by DraconianKing
You mean your near death drug trip, whatever you see close to death is brought on by a chemical released from your pineal gland.

I have to disagree with this statement,friend, for it has been medically and scientifically proven that once brainwave activity ceases, no sign of electrical activity at all, there is little if any effect from endorphins;
I would genuinely like you or anyone prove this theoritical statement to be true, in my case, or one better, in that of Dannion Brinkly; he had been in the morgue for over 2 hours before he came back, so I daresay we can rule out endorphinic release.

Peace and enlightment to you.
seeker

Good post on a great experience.

For those who refuse to see the legitimacy of such experiences let me tell you something.... You do not have to die in order to experience being in that place!! Anyone can journey there in awareness, it only takes a few minutes. I've purposely travelled there hundreds of times since accidentally discovering it could be done wayback in 1977.

Let me explain. The area is the highest level of the Astral realms, it is where the Akashic Record is, where all the dead go if they aren't waylayed in their beliefs, where you will find a city, a massive park with lakes, and where you will discover how much more real it feels than your physical life.. by the way, Robert Monroe describes this level as Focus 27. And, I regularly teach clients how to get to the Akasha so they can get their answers for themselves.

In my journeys there I learned many things, firstly that every person travels there at night while astral to speak with their mentors on occassions (guides, higher-self), secondly that when we set our intention to journey there we telescope our desire so we are expected on arrival, thirdly, that the Akasha is the only place to research your Intentions for this and other lives, fourth, you can assist others who have died to reach it when they have been stuck in their belief-system territory.

Everything I know about humanity's future, about my tasks for this life, etc, have all come from the Akasha journeys. I trust it implicitly as it has never been wrong, although through our choices in life we can alter courses, and then journey to the Akasha again to see how that has effected outcomes.

So, if you can journey there without being physically dead, then it cannot be the symptoms of a dying brain misfiring or releasing chemical compounds to create a hallucination.

Thank you.

This is an interesting thread/experience.


When I was a teenager a friend and I played the knockout game. I wont go into to much detail other then to say, you get knocked out for a few seconds and then awake. We both took our turn, several times in fact. The last time I was knocked out I saw a bright white/yellowish light. It was off in the distance. As the light came rushing towards me I felt complete safety, as if I belonged. That lasted for only a short while, I heard no voices or saw anything other then that light. At that time in my life I had zero idea what that meant.
A few years later I would read a book from an air force pilot that described the exact same experience I had. He had this vision as he was wiped around a machine testing to see how many G's his body could withstand. He then went on to describe what science believes caused his own experience.


Could the experience you had been the pineal gland as another suggested? I know for me it had to have been. Or perhaps, just perhaps... when your body or mind reaches a certain zenith, you start to move into another dimension. I honestly don't know... but I know for a fact each of us are going to find out one day.

Could you describe something you saw in your experience that has yet to come true?


Thanks for the story.

--Charles Marcello

It's threads like these that keep pulling me back. Thanks, Seeker.

Originally posted by free_form
What are some of things you talked about with the elders?

free_form, first it was them explaining to me that I had died prematurely and to remove part of my confusion they explained to me how and why I had made it to there; that I had chosen these specific experiences for this particular life cycle, and the majority of them were incomplete,thru no fault of my own;

for a brief time I was allowed to ask questions, and one I will share with you is why bad things are allowed to happen;
the answer was all things are permitted, and some need to experience these things to complete their list of experience;

I also asked why babies and children die; the answer was that most of them chose to experience early death or a particular way of dying, and if the short list of experiences they had previously chosen were completed they were allowed to come home.

I wa shown pieces of my former lives to illustrate some of these answers, shown myself as a young child of maybe 5 years old dying from the plague in London; another time I was a baby killed by the calvary during a raid on a Hunk-papa Sioux camp. and much more. I had completed my chosen goals and opted to return home with these death experiences.


peace and light.
seeker

Do clocks work for you?

Originally posted by the seeker_713g

Originally posted by DraconianKing
You mean your near death drug trip, whatever you see close to death is brought on by a chemical released from your pineal gland.

I have to disagree with this statement,friend, for it has been medically and scientifically proven that once brainwave activity ceases, no sign of electrical activity at all, there is little if any effect from endorphins;
I would genuinely like you or anyone prove this theoritical statement to be true, in my case, or one better, in that of Dannion Brinkly; he had been in the morgue for over 2 hours before he came back, so I daresay we can rule out endorphinic release.

Peace and enlightment to you.
seeker

What DraconianKing is saying is that your pineal gland is scientifically known to release high amounts of DMT right before human death. You probably did experience this, but it in no way takes away from your experience.
DMT has been called many things, one of them being the "Spirit Molecule." Many believe it is what keeps our soul attached to our bodies, and when released, gives you and out of body experience (OoBE).
A couple of Buddhist monks took it once for scientific research and says it took them to a place they have visited many times before through states of deep meditation, and took them as far as you can go into the Bardo without dieing (the first stage of death).
So, what DraconianKing says is somewhat true. Your brain probably did produce high amounts of DMT, but that only allowed you to go OoB, from there, what you experienced was undoubtedly a Near Death Experience, and a place we all probably go once we leave this plain... This is all, however, my person opinion

Originally posted by verastyle
Well if you think about it miracle the best person to judge you would be yourself, since you can hide your true self from others but you can't hide it from yourself

Maybe it's because I have never experienced it or I guess I can't remember past experiences of it, but I would expect the same people who are truly evil to not judge themselves fairly because they are motivated by the same things that led them to evil in the first place, if that makes sense. I really believe that probably 90% of all the suffering that happens on this planet comes from about 1 or 2% of people, maybe it's just me but some people I have seen seem to be beyond help or humanity and would kill you no matter how much you try to love them, most of the rest are good people who are just victims of society's problems.

Anyway to stay on topic and not derail the thread to much, where any of your past life experiences you remember on other planets or as other life forms, or were they all on earth as a human?

Originally posted by guidanceofthe third kind
Did the elders tell you what breaks the chain of reincarnating on such and such a place because i would rather not end up on earth again.

Friend, you can choose to break the chain yourself; but understand this, we all chose to come here, to be here at this particular moment;
one thing I strongly advise against is suicide; yes, you go home, but you also come back and re-do every second of this life until you make it past the suicide and complete the cycle.

We walk blindly into each life, all our soul memories sealed away from us so this life will not be influenced by what we have already done.
The winds of change are blowing, for the people, and for the planet; many of the ones here now are here just to be a part of it all; don't worry about if it will happen,for it will; worry about if you get to move ahead or have to repeat a grade.


seeker

Why do you not seek liberation from the never ending cycle of birth and rebirth? Or do you want to keep coming back?

Originally posted by SoulOrb


Ok, now, you know what is next, I need to hear more, in particular what has to be changed.

Oh, and I believe you 100%.



[edit on 3-6-2009 by SoulOrb]

Hi friend,good to see you; I already stated earlier some of the things we need to work very hard on changing, and I see no need to repeat myself; but we need to wake people up to the fact that no one should be hungry or ever starve, love should be the base of all we do, and please drop the snotty attitude that most people have about life in the universe, for the Creator set many many stages for this scenario to play out on,not just this one, and I could never ever be so conceited as to believe that since we are at the top of the food chain here that we must be all there is in a universe so vast that it has billions of planets.

I am not a prophet,oracle, or fortune teller; all I can say is enjoy the ride, but fasten your seat belts, the roller coaster is almost to the top of the hill.

seeker

Originally posted by the seeker_713g
I also asked why babies and children die; the answer was that most of them chose to experience early death or a particular way of dying, and if the short list of experiences they had previously chosen were completed they were allowed to come home.

I wa shown pieces of my former lives to illustrate some of these answers, shown myself as a young child of maybe 5 years old dying from the plague in London; another time I was a baby killed by the calvary during a raid on a Hunk-papa Sioux camp. and much more. I had completed my chosen goals and opted to return home with these death experiences.


peace and light.
seeker

This makes me think about this odd feeling I have always had. I've always had a belief that before we are born, we are like angels in heaven( was raised Christian, so I use this to describe it). Like we chose to came down and live a life here on Earth. Just a weird feeling, you know?

Like we choose to complete a cycle down here for a while.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by abishar]

Originally posted by miraclerock
I have read lots and lots of NDEs and I am always amazed at how similar they are no matter where the person comes from or whatever their personal beliefs are. I'm not sure if I am a fan of life review and judging yourself, kind of makes me feel like there is no justice, but that seems to be the what every single NDE I have read agrees on.

These are always a good read thanks for sharing.

It goes a different way than justice,friend, for you experience what you did exactly the same way whoever you did it to experienced it, no matter what it is, from teasing or taunting to cold-blooded murder.

As for being your own judge, you and you alone know what is in your heart and soul, cannot lie or hide from yourself; so who better to critique your performance?

peace.
seeker