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Yep, It's Thermite! So Much for the "Oxygen" Excuse


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reply posted on 1-10-2009 @ 08:36 AM by Nutter


Originally posted by pteridine
I have shown Turbo that there is excess heat far above any aluminothermic reaction, which means combustion is taking place.


So, there is excess heat far above any aluminothermic reaction taking place? And you call this combustion? I thought aluminothermics produced far more heat than combustion?

Because combustion is taking place, the only way to discriminate between combustion and other reactions is to run the DSC under inert. The spheres will sort themselves out later after reaction has been determined to occur under inert. Turbo does not want to admit that this is the first step to proving thermitic reaction because then this thread topic is wrong.



Another question I have is:

If this is an incendiary, why does it have to comform to therm*te? Aren't there more complex incendiaries than regular therm*te? Therefore, the use of air as the oxygen source may be neccessary (or at least known that air would be present)? Or do ALL incendiaries have their own oxygen source?



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reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 08:28 AM by pteridine


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Those are good questions, Nutter, and I believe that many other readers share these concerns.
Aluminothermics get much hotter than combustion of hydrocarbons in air but they produce about ten times LESS heat per unit weight than burning hydrocarbons.
Think of temperature as the intensity of the heat and the joules as the total quantity. A match is much hotter than room temperature water, but try to melt a block of ice with a match versus a large amount of room temperature water.
Because thermite consists of iron oxide and aluminum, it has its own oxidizer and that is part of the equation, “heat per unit weight.” When something is burned in air, the weight of the oxygen used in burning is not included, so the heat per unit weight goes up. Hydrogen burning in air has the highest heat per unit weight.
Jones claimed a super-thermite based on what he thinks he found, so that is why we focus on thermite. Thermites don’t need air to react although they work in air. The first thing Jones must do to prove thermite is to show the reaction in the absence of air.
Many incendiaries do not have their own oxygen source. Napalm and white phosphorus are nasty incendiaries that rely on air as do FAE devices, which are explosives.



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reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 08:49 AM by Nutter


Originally posted by pteridine
Jones claimed a super-thermite based on what he thinks he found, so that is why we focus on thermite.


Now I see why we are specifically focused on thermite and not another type of incendiary.

The first thing Jones must do to prove thermite is to show the reaction in the absence of air.


I agree with the above statement.



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