Originally posted by ignorant_ape
i have an obvious question - for the proponents of this ` nano thermite claim ` - how the heck did the ` nano thermite ` survive the fire , collapse - post coloapse continuted fire - post collapse application of fire fighting water , post collapse rain etc etc

i have personal experience of the use of " thermate " tm the commercial welding product - and its very VERY sensetive to ` sloppy handling / storage degredation `

leaving the lid off a 500gms container for a bank holiday weekend caused marked reduction in preformance

given that the ` nano thermite claim ` specifies grain size far smaller than any in commercial use - and oxidation rate is a product of syrface area / volume

then the notion that thier was identifiable nano thermite to test - strikes me as odd

Originally posted by pteridine
Jones promises a new paper that addresses the issues.

Originally posted by Another Vodka

Mike, how do we know it is really you typing in your replies and not your twin sister? How many fingers am I holding up?50

Everything you read on the net can be doubted with the same logic you pose. It takes a while for the data to add up. Should we believe everything? Of course not. That kind of blindness is for ardent Fox News fans.

Originally posted by mmiichael


Do know if you publish a paper stating you are doing a test on material found in the debris of WTC, the question immediately arises - how can we be certain it really is from the WTC and not been added in the 7+ years since.

What kind of scientist says "Hey ...you gotta trust me."

I'm amazed no one even brings up the most important question.

It will not be answered by anyone here, of course.

1. Provenance of the Samples Analyzed

for this Report In a paper presented first online in autumn 2006 regarding anomalies observed in the World Trade Center destruction [6], a general request was issued for samples of the WTC dust. The expectation at that time was that a careful examination of the dust might yield evidence to support the hypothesis that explosive materials other than jet fuel caused the extraordinarily rapid and essentially total destruction of the WTC buildings. It was learned that a number of people had saved samples of the copious, dense dust, which spread and settled across Manhattan. Several of these people sent portions of their samples to members of this research group. This paper discusses four separate dust samples collected on or shortly after 9/11/2001. Each sample was found to contain red/gray chips.

All four samples were originally collected by private citizens who lived in New York City at the time of the tragedy. These citizens came forward and provided samples for analysis in the public interest, allowing study of the 9/11 dust for whatever facts about the day might be learned from the dust. A map showing the locations where the four samples were collected is presented as Fig.A map showing the locations where the four samples were collected is presented as Fig.

Originally posted by FremdThe fact still remains that these scientific experiments you're talking about haven't been conducted in a fully scientific manner.

A purely scientific manner would be to perform the experiments without prejudice and without speculation. Do it in all ways, free of oxygen or whatever.

Anyone who get's angry, defensive, and childish when i ask for those things, can very easily be ruled out as false.

the fact that so many people starred and flagged your post on your word alone is proof enough that too many truthers don't require proof, just information that makes them feel good.

I'll patiently wait for proof. I've read over everything you've posted and nothing proves anything yet.

Prove me wrong. If you're right, it shouldn't be too hard.

Originally posted by sy.gunson
Thermite requires Sulpher and Aluminium to be present.

Guess what ?

United Airlines flight 175 had 4.5 tonnes of sulphur in it's fuel and 160 tonnes of aluminum.

Fancy that. All the ingredients needed for a thermite fire. Ah well there goes another conspiracy theory.

What a pity for all those people who wasted years of their life trying to prove a conspiracy.