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Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by bsbray11
You keep assuming that you are the only one with any technical education, which you regularly overestimate.
Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by P1DrummerBoy
Thanks for your input. I'm sorry you don't understand my posts. General content lifted from other web pages is easy and anyone can get it if they want it, so I don't bother searching for keen diagrams and cartoons from school web sites to add to posts, especially when the details are so specific. Technical skill and experience is tougher to find and that is what I offer. Generally, I explain at whatever level the post will bear and answer questions. I think I must have explained the DSC error at least 15 times and will probably explain it again. There is no web reference to it that I know of, other than what I posted here and on JREF, so it is rather difficult to show examples. Perhaps a DSC textbook or an Analytical Chem textbook with a section on DSC will say that when you are looking to prove a reaction that runs in the absence of air, you shouldn't run it in air. Most assume some basic intelligence when it comes to these things and I do also.
A force is a push or pull upon an object resulting from the object's interaction with another object. Whenever there is an interaction between two objects, there is a force upon each of the objects. When the interaction ceases, the two objects no longer experience the force. Forces only exist as a result of an interaction.
Originally posted by bsbray11
To find the amount of force used to eject a ton 150 meters laterally, you have to find the average acceleration required to travel 150m in 9 seconds.
How many times can Jones be told that Iron (Fe) and Aluminum (Al) is neither the product or reactant of thermite. For someone that has spent so much time with thermite it has to be concluded that he is blatantly lying to the ignorant.
Iron and Aluminum mean nothing together, you either need Iron-oxide and Aluminum (the reactant) or Iron with Aluminum-oxide (the product). He has never found Aluminum-oxide. Not to mention the Iron spheres could come from a number of different sources.
Not to mention these red chips have already been debunked. If most truthers did their research, these red chips are nothing more than red oxide primer. The NIST gives the manufacturer (... I believe its a Pennsylvania company) and blender number. The ingredients of the chips matches the exact ingredients of the paint. Congratulations Mr. Jones through your hard work and dedication you've found Paint, I hope your proud.
Originally posted by NIcon
Though I haven't made up my mind yet of what this could be and I'm following this line of inquiry closely, I don't believe it's the primer paint used in the towers.
So, unless I'm missing some kind of possible mutation of the paint, I don't believe it's the primer.
Come to think of it, what is the coating used to immobilize asbestos flaking?
...He even entered into the analysis with a goal to prove the red chips were thermite which biased his experiment from the beginning. These reasons are why the paper, as it now stands, will never be published in a reputable journal...
The problem is that the government took our money (taxes to pay for the investigation) and came up with "can't prove either side" and is OK with that. Every American citizen should be outraged at this. In a country with supercomputers and oh so many resources, we couldn't even prove an "open and shut case". There is no excuse for that and anyone who accepts it, no matter what they believe, is part of the problem.
Originally posted by jprophet420
1: The NIST report set out to prove that thermite/CD was not used and is therefore equally as biased.
2: No sources that opposed Jones work, including the NIST report even looked at the evidence. Beyond that, it is fact that the scientific method was averted in the making of the NIST report.
12. Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? The combination of thermite and sulfur (called thermate) "slices through steel like a hot knife through butter."
NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.
The responses to questions number 2, 4, 5 and 11 demonstrate why NIST concluded that there were no explosives or controlled demolition involved in the collapses of the WTC towers.
Furthermore, a very large quantity of thermite (a mixture of powdered or granular aluminum metal and powdered iron oxide that burns at extremely high temperatures when ignited) or another incendiary compound would have had to be placed on at least the number of columns damaged by the aircraft impact and weakened by the subsequent fires to bring down a tower. Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening. Separate from the WTC towers investigation, NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition.
Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive. The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC towers, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard that was prevalent in the interior partitions.