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Obama arrives in Riyadh, gets blast from bin Laden

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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder
and Islamic terrorists could obviously try and perpetuate his name to maintain the fear.

Tell me something realistically
Who in your opinion is today currently benefitting from this fear?
Who is gaining the most?




posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademiaTell me something realistically
Who in your opinion is today currently benefitting from this fear?
Who is gaining the most?



The fear benefits two "groups"

* Western govts intent on increasing control

* Islamic terrorists, who have, as their raison d'etre, the desire to spread fear


What or who benefits most is not sufficient "evidence" in itself- for instance, a chap murders his wife who is having an affair- who benefits most?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder
* Islamic terrorists, who have, as their raison d'etre, the desire to spread fear

raison d'etre?
come on man
that's racism

All abrahamic religions are the same, they are all about conquest.
But there are still good people within those religions nonetheless.

And they haven't been spreading fear, the govt. and the media has.

The sheep believed that 'they' were terroists
I always said it was only a matter of time until the sheep who believed this would also one day be called a terroist by their own country.

And now that is happening too. You care about illegal immigration then you are a potential terroist.

The fact that Bush lied to get into Iraq, doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?


Originally posted by blueorder
What or who benefits most is not sufficient "evidence" in itself- for instance, a chap murders his wife who is having an affair- who benefits most?

That analogy doesn't work
That's one person doing one impulsive act
not an entire community of people doing many acts over a long period of time.

A wise man once said 99% of the world's questions, it's answer is always money and power.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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the Osama "Videos/Audio" only come up when it has something to do with the USA, coincidence it's only at those times? if it was truly Islamic "Terrorist" don't you think they would do it more often? or when it has nothing to do with The President, or the US affairs with the Middle East.

how many Proven Islamic Terrorist attacks on America is there really?

so what would these said Islamic "Terrorist" be gaining from releasing fake Osama tapes?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 10:39 AM
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That's ok, if it is bin Laden, Obama can invite him to the
forth of July celebrations and then apologize for all of America's sins since it's foundation, heaven knows all other countries and peoples are perfect.

The thing is the original sinners were Europeans, lol

Oh and then if we trace their ancestry back
WE can finally lay the blame on who?



No need to respond to this post I already know all the replies I will receive by heart.




[edit on 103030p://bWednesday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademiaraison d'etre?
come on man
that's racism


no it isn't all terrorist groups wish to spread fear, the Islamic ones are no different- I really despair when people crowbar "racism" into the debate for no apparent reason




All abrahamic religions are the same, they are all about conquest.
But there are still good people within those religions nonetheless.


this is a completely separate discussion and has no relevance to what I posted- I specified islamic terrorists wish to spread fear, I did not mention "all muslims are terrorists"



And they haven't been spreading fear, the govt. and the media has.


they both have



The sheep believed that 'they' were terroists


and indeed the terrorists do exist, though probably not to the extent the western power brokers would have us believe



I always said it was only a matter of time until the sheep who believed this would also one day be called a terroist by their own country.


quite possibly




And now that is happening too. You care about illegal immigration then you are a potential terroist.


again probably true




The fact that Bush lied to get into Iraq, doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?


yep, he was a liar, and a rather inept president



That analogy doesn't work
That's one person doing one impulsive act
not an entire community of people doing many acts over a long period of time.


that does not disprove islamic terrorists wish to use the Bin Laden spectre to propogate fear



A wise man once said 99% of the world's questions, it's answer is always money and power.
[edit on 3-6-2009 by ModernAcademia]


correct, and people other than the US, UK etc wish to have power



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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my only point is calling that racism is because you call it islamic racism.
that's propaganda

it's not islamic terroism
it's just people who don't like america's foreign policy

why do you think america is the ONLY country being attacked?
because your free?
Switzlerland is way free-er than america but they are in no danger whatosever.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by ModernAcademia]



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