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STOP the Police Tyranny

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posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by danglesnipes27
in my opinion they do alot more good than they do bad. dont put yourselves in situations where you could get taz'd and youll be fine.


at least someoe has some common sense and isnt an overly paranoid pointless "victim"


The guy from London, I dunno, Im in america and do not know how their constables operate. Im not going into it further. If indeed the whole royal police force has it out for you..well good lord..I feel bad for you.


To anyone who thinks Im a typical horrible cop, and only associate with other cops ..your wrong almost all of my friends are civis, and I have never brutalized anyone..nor would I. I use force to eliminate a threat, and stop force when the threat is eliminated.


and your right about one thing, I hope your put into a situation where no harm arises to you or any of your family, yet you realize that police are necessary and do help out citizens, and maybe then you will realize that police cannot operate well, without the cooperation of civis. Come work my job for 1 week and deal with all the threats to your own safety I have on a weekly basis. I would love to see you not unholster your weapon as a deterrent to an assailant, or how to restrain someone who is out of their mind on coc aine without subduing them.

Maybe in your city, the local fat-ass deputies have nothing better to do than bully, or became a cop because they were beat up in high school, but in Detroit, well at least in my station, with the guys I work with, we just wanna go home at the end of the night to our families, and do whatever to get through the shift smoothly.

There are 4 cops in my family...none of us have ever used excessive force..or shot the wrong person...or killed an innocent, or our SWAT team has never raided the wrong house.....Thats nearly impossible unless the location of the person was informed to be that house and he had left, making it a skipped perp.


wow...i'm done, the whiners here will argue all day that were evil whatever [snip] it


i know what I do, and I know what I dont do, stereotype as you will and beleive the media all you want. go onto the Fox 2 website in detroit and just search the violent run ins we deal with every day, and the officers we lose just doing their jobs who were killed by a drug dealer...but in your eyes the drug dealer did society a favor right..he eliminated a tyrant bully right?




posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 01:31 AM
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Well Parisinflames, I am glad you learned how to use the quote system. But, I no longer believe your a cop. Your diction is to poor, your attitude to flimsy, and your understanding of cops is lacking...

Cops do not join the force because they were bullied in school.

Cops join the force so they can continue the bulling they did in school.

You think we NEED cops? The police force of today is a modern invention. For eons mankind got along just fine with out police. Sure people in the past have had their suffering and mankind will always have it's problems with itself but this new concept of calling the police when a perp is attacking you is insane! You can not ask a criminal stop what they are doing and wait around the boys in blue.


Cops do not prevent theft,rape, or murder NO the arrive after the fact. Common sense saves a mans life not cops.

All the good cops resigned long ago. Now all that is left are bad cops and those that cover for bad cops. You can talk all you want about the media but the stories I found are only the stories they chose to report. Most of the time the media does not even report on the dark side of the police.

This is a police state. When a civilian does not comply with a Law enforcement officers orders the standard procedure is to taze them into submission.

You expect us to sympathize with you and to empathize with you.. WE WILL NOT!

The law enforcment community has gone insane!

And it is past time for them to be reigned in for a reality check.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by titorite
Well Parisinflames, I am glad you learned how to use the quote system. But, I no longer believe your a cop. Your diction is to poor, your attitude to flimsy, and your understanding of cops is lacking...

My diction huh? sure, because I care about that in a forum where I'm not personally known by anyone, and my statements are not going into legal forms or reports.

How is my attitude flimsy? Can you really grasp an individuals attitude through text? Or was it because i said I was done?...Because a real cop who's a tyrant would argue until blue in the face.

And since I would understand more of being a cop than you would, please explain how my understanding is lacking. Please use some good examples. Im really curious to see what you come up with.




posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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here my idea, we start a new group called the "police-police" they drive cars almost identical to what regular police drive, except they are not aloud to interact with civilians at all. Instead there job is to drive the streets and listen to the scanners, for police activity.

example, if you are pulled over by the police, the police-police show up immediately. The P.P. are there to make sure the police respect you, and are respectful of your constitutional and personal rights. (everything is recorded and readily available for ANYONE)

the p.p can arrest a policeman, but not a civilian, the p.p. in extreme circumstances can taze a policeman to keep im from infringing on ones rights.

the p.p. are not aloud to hang out or communicate anything more then orders to a police man, these departments are not meant to interact, and any interaction on a personal level will result in the p.p. and the policeman being suspended without pay.

this is just the peak of the iceberg of my idea, but i think it could really help keep things in check, will keeping all the police employed and even making a bunch of new jobs to help the economy.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:26 AM
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Did you know that when you read over this thread again and again you can edit you own posts upto ...(WHAT IS IT MODS 6 HOURS?) 6 hours.. maybe its two hours... But you can edit your own posts to fix bad quotes like the one you just made....


As for you being a cop... No.. I think your a faker. A cop supporter that for some reason can not be a cop. 4F for whatever reason.

We all here at ATS read lots of LEOs opinions. They carry themselves in a different manner than you. That makes you the one who enjoys the chains of servitude.

Interesting.

Since your the one claiming to be a cop it is one you to prove your claim. Not me. You still have yet to provide a link to that news story you spoke about earlier. You have made some claims but offer no proof.

I don't believe you are a REAL LEO.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by shortest man walking
here my idea, we start a new group called the "police-police" they drive cars almost identical to what regular police drive, except they are not aloud to interact with civilians at all. Instead there job is to drive the streets and listen to the scanners, for police activity.

example, if you are pulled over by the police, the police-police show up immediately. The P.P. are there to make sure the police respect you, and are respectful of your constitutional and personal rights. (everything is recorded and readily available for ANYONE)

the p.p can arrest a policeman, but not a civilian, the p.p. in extreme circumstances can taze a policeman to keep im from infringing on ones rights.

the p.p. are not aloud to hang out or communicate anything more then orders to a police man, these departments are not meant to interact, and any interaction on a personal level will result in the p.p. and the policeman being suspended without pay.

this is just the peak of the iceberg of my idea, but i think it could really help keep things in check, will keeping all the police employed and even making a bunch of new jobs to help the economy.


that is hilarious



but titorite...believe me or not..your choice, maybe you want my name and badge number, and maybe inquire for yourself

I dont have [snip] to prove to you, and i dont care how other LEO's present themselves on here. I do things my own way, and honestly you believing me is the least of my worries, your behind a computer and not in front of me, because that would be a whole different scenario for you.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:40 AM
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I like your idea shortest man walking. There is a program called copwatch.. but your taking it abit further... Kinda like an internal affairs division that really does what it's supposed to do. Keeping thinking on it... its a good idea.

Parisinflames you ask alot of others and offer little yourself. You talk big from your side of the screen and tell me thing would be different if we were face to face. Different how? What would you do to me if you saw me face to face?

Would you beat me up?

Would you taze me?

Would you carry on a civil conversation?

What would you do if we were talking face to face?



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by parisinflames


that is hilarious




yeah someone keeping cops in check is hilarious.


not really the attitude you want to see from a cop.

i hope you really aren't one.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:40 AM
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oh yeah, by the way, check for edits it should show if i edited....what have i edited all these times?

you always seem to make stupid claims of me trying to win these peoples hearts

I don't care what you or anyone else thinks, your not an actual threat to me.

It's 0338 where i am, i need to sleep now, but I do look forward to reading your rebuttal tomorrow.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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God you people are so ridiculous. The idea of me making a stop, and having police police come as well is funny to me. Picture it happening, I find humor in me talking to the person I stopped, asking them for license and registration, and insurance, then having the police police ask me for my badge, MCOLES card, and police ID card, then the person I stopped,getting upset because they got a speeding ticket for 55 in a 30, then me getting upset for getting a ticket for writing a ticket that was for a 55 in a 30, but dropping it to impeding traffic to not raise the persons insurance, then me getting mad for getting a fine for not giving them a higher fine....you cant see the humor in that?

I do my job by the books, so why would I worry about getting arrested by the police police.


And titorite, no I would not beat you up, I'm not in 10th grade, I already said I don't like tasers, I would carry on a civil conversation, and take you on a ride along and show you what a shift of mine consists of, then you could see what its like for ME in the city I work for, speaking as an individual, and not backing up every LEOin the country, because I know there are bad ones out there. But I think you would have a different opinion spending a shift on duty in Detroit in the Southwest district.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:57 AM
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that's a ridiculous example, i guess your putting your own little policemen spin on it.


how about this

the Police-police, don't check any of your credentials, that would be flippin ridiculous.

they don't write you a ticket for righting a ticket, please, that doesn't even make sense, think logically for a moment, the suspect broke the law by speeding, your doing your job, just do it while showing the "suspect" the same respect you would show him if you weren't in your all powerful uniform and there will be no ticket for you from the police police.


here's a decent example.

a news crew was arrested for video taping at the scene of an accident when a cop wanting to prove how bad ass he was, decided to "make an example" out of them by yelling at them, shoving them around then arresting both.

super troopers at work

now if the police-police were there, this super trooper would have been arrested and the film crew aloud to carry on,

there are a million other LOGICAL examples,

yours were just... well... hilarious.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:09 AM
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I think I shall do my best to avoid responding to you. This thread should focus more on the OP and not on the rantings of what may or may not be a cop.

But I sincerely hope your not a cop. Because how can we here expect you to be a good and honorable cop when you can't even follow the rules of ATS?

You still have not clicked your warn and everyone can see that because you still have the warn word under your name. You are still cussing. You are still acting in a less than civil manner by calling me stupid.

If you can not abide by the little rules here how can we expect that you are capable of upholding the law in real life.....

So no I do not think you are a LEO and if you are then you belong in a link on this thread.... To that end next time I post it will be a story from D-town... let us see if we can not find your story.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:10 AM
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well that news crew has a right to be there and film. They would only be asked to leave if there were bodies in plain view, or the victims families were not notified yet of their family members death. But pushing them around is not cool, they're just doing their job as well. Now if it's a truly stomach turning scene, and the news just so happened to be there for the aftermath before bodies could be covered, or families notified, and were asked to leave and refused, asked again , then refused again, force would be used (now I mean this to be done by the books) to remove the intruding or unauthorized parties from the scene until cleared for media access, which would usually be a firm escorting off the scene premises. Is that how many do it...well no. but thats how it should be done.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by titorite
reply to post by parisinflames
 


I think I shall do my best to avoid responding to you. This thread should focus more on the OP and not on the rantings of what may or may not be a cop.

But I sincerely hope your not a cop. Because how can we here expect you to be a good and honorable cop when you can't even follow the rules of ATS?

You still have not clicked your warn and everyone can see that because you still have the warn word under your name. You are still cussing. You are still acting in a less than civil manner by calling me stupid.

If you can not abide by the little rules here how can we expect that you are capable of upholding the law in real life.....

So no I do not think you are a LEO and if you are then you belong in a link on this thread.... To that end next time I post it will be a story from D-town... let us see if we can not find your story.


well I try not to take the internet so seriously, it's sad you would compare forum rules and my abiding by them on the same level as the law in real life, and how I enforce them. I can see where you feel the importance is. I'm not the softest spoken guy out there, oh well, your so worried about citizens rights...well it's my right to voice myself however I deem fitting. This isn't real life to me, this is the internet, and this site is time passing entertainment for me.I dont hold anything against anyone, nor do I care what these screen names think about me.

Do you leave your house and socialize much with real people?

Or is this just where you feel you are always right, and you are invulnerable?



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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I have to agree, cops are way out of control. They aren't there to help, they're there to make money for the state. When was the last time a cop stopped a robbery in process at anyone's one? Sure never stopped one at my house. When was the last time anyone got a ticket? My guess is the cops catch a lot more speeders than thieves everyday. They to scared to deal with the big bad guy, it's easy to harass, beat, taze and shoot speeders.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by parisinflames


Do you leave your house and socialize much with real people?

Or is this just where you feel you are always right, and you are invulnerable?


personal attacks are lame, don't fall back on those, or do you want to be banned from ats.

[edit on 4-6-2009 by shortest man walking]



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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More cases of bad police.

This guy was shot with beanbag bullets and tazered for taping a warrentless search

USA Today says cases of police brutality are on the rise since 911

5 NY cops charged with sodomy

By god that last link is scary....

You see my point is that the bod cops out weigh the good cops.... and the good cops become bad when they cover for their brothers..

A brotherhood of blood meant to terrorize YOU reading this now.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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Like I said, the media is a filthy nasty festering sore of lies, and you seem to believe everything. Do you believe everything you read...perhaps those absurd magazines at the end of the checkout lanes where the women are having alien babies, and elvis was spotted at a taco bell.


Unless you were there, you don't know how it went down.

"victims" are great at creating sob stories to win the jury's hearts.

I have arrested COMBATANT and DOPED and DRUNK drivers who were in possession of a substance with intent to distribute. , who resisted arrest as well as well as attempting to assault me in the process.

But the scoundrels that attorneys are will sit next to them in court and defend their innocence because they are angelic, and did no wrong...until our best weapon comes out..the dash mounted camera, then the jury sees how it actually went.

I guess the point Im trying tomake to you titorite is you keep believing everything the media throws at you. I dont care about it unless you watched it happen.


and your right...sorry for the personal attacks



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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Detriot police still struggle with police brutality

Detroit police lead the US in police killing

Detroit police labs shut down after audit shows many innocent convictions

5 innocent men shot dead by detroit police

Detroit seems to have a problem.

Who should we believe the media that only reports on 1 out of 5 police brutality cases or the police that insist their is no such thing as police brutality.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 11:07 PM
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ok tito tell me how you would do things different?

How would you get criminals under control?

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