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Yemeni inmate found dead at Guantanamo prison: US

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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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Yemeni inmate found dead at Guantanamo prison: US


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WASHINGTON (AFP) — A man from Yemen held at the US-run prison in Guantanamo for more than seven years without charge was found dead in an apparent suicide, the US military said.

The 31-year-old inmate was identified as Muhammad Ahmad Abdallah Salih, also known as Al-Hanashi. He had been held at Guantanamo since February 2002, US Southern Command said in a statement.

It was the fifth reported suicide at the controversial "war on terror" prison since the center opened at the remote US naval base in southeast Cuba in 2002, officials said.
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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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Five people decide to rather die than endure the treatment in a prison. Better to say torture chamber.

What happens in there that people prefer death over life? Probably the worst things you can imagine.

Makes me sick... so sick. And congress decides not to give money so it can be shut down. What a healthy mentality.

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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:13 AM
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If I were being held in prison without just cause for an indefinite time, I would happily end my life.

Happily.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:20 AM
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You're sure? It's not the end of the world when you were held in a prison for seven years. Whithout torture, i mean.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:25 AM
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Did you not read my first statement?

Imagine if you were being held in prison for no reason. You didnt have a trial, you have no chance of getting out. After 7 years, it's pretty obvious youre never going to leave.


Yes. Happily.


Edit: And you trust the reports that they dont torture at gitmo?

[edit on 6/3/2009 by Tentickles]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Wachstum


Better to say torture chamber.


edit: Why would it be pretty obvious that you will never leave after seven years detention without trial? Makes no sense to me

[edit on 3-6-2009 by Wachstum]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:35 AM
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Oh well. Less Tax dollars we have to spend.
Does this make him a martyr?
NOPE!!!
I have no sympathy at all for this guy,at all.

With that said.

All of the attention that they have been given over there, I am questioning whether or not it was really a suicide. Thats just the Conspiracy theorist in me though.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:39 AM
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He hasnt even been bloody proven guilty of anything!
But i suppose if hes from the middle east and got a name like a terrorist you dont care.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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Ya think?
I read the article, I am aware of the situation.
And why do you have to tie race into this?
The man killed himself(so they say). I have no sympathy for people whom take their own lives, I think its cowardly.
I also doubt that he was in there for "no reason".
They probably had him detained for a GOOD REASON.
They just dont go down the street and say "hey, you look like a terrorist, you are going to jail indefinately cause you look like you are up to no good"
Theres always a reason. Whether or not they tell you is irrelevant.
Theres always a show going on behind the curtains.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by Tentickles
If I were being held in prison without just cause for an indefinite time, I would happily end my life.

Happily.


'Fraid I'd have to disagree, instead of ending my life ( which is what they want in the first place) I'd live to make sure that I'd be a total pain in the rear end for them, causing them no end of hassle and grief, even if it's just to break the monotony of the days.

Besides what whit al these so called 'terrorists' having the extra name , ally ackbar also known as '''''. WTF is that all about? you get born with a name stick with it.

[edit on 3/6/09 by DataWraith]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:57 AM
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I don't think this is peculiar to Guantanamo- suicides in prison is a relatively common thing?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder
I don't think this is peculiar to Guantanamo- suicides in prison is a relatively common thing?


Yes but there are suicides in prisons by inmates who cannot take the pressure ( you play wiv feathers ,you get your bum tickled)( God I love that saying
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and then theres the Guantanamo 'suicides' *wink wink*.

suicides helped along by a few fists, feet and guns of the guards .



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by DataWraith
Yes but there are suicides in prisons by inmates who cannot take the pressure ( you play wiv feathers ,you get your bum tickled)( God I love that saying
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and then theres the Guantanamo 'suicides' *wink wink*.

suicides helped along by a few fists, feet and guns of the guards .



you might be right, but is there any evidence to support "staged" suicide?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 05:08 AM
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There dont seem to be alot of white americans in there and anyway i didnt specify any race.As far as i know the M.E is made up of many people.
Yea he killed himself i wonder why?People in a hopeless situation tend to do this and we still dont know if the detainees are enduring serious mental/physical abuse.
We dont know if they detained him for a GOOD reason thats the problem.If you want to take your medias and leaders word on that fine but why dont they charge them with something and tell us what they are being held indefinitaley for?
So if the people above you think its a good reason to do something you have no problems with that?No niggling doubts, no questions?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 05:16 AM
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WASHINGTON -- The suicide rate in local jails fell from 129 per 100,000 inmates in 1983 to 47 per 100,000 in 2002, the Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. The findings are from the first BJS report on inmate deaths mandated by the Death in Custody Reporting Act of 2002 (Public Law 106-297).

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


source: www.ojp.usdoj.gov...

There were 750 - 500 detainees in Guantanamo, 5 suicides since 2002

that is 0.71 suicides per year

100.000 / 625 = 160

160 * 0.71 = 113,6

which makes 113.6 per 100.000


can someone confirm the math??



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by Azador
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There dont seem to be alot of white americans in there and anyway i didnt specify any race.As far as i know the M.E is made up of many people.
Yea he killed himself i wonder why?People in a hopeless situation tend to do this and we still dont know if the detainees are enduring serious mental/physical abuse.
We dont know if they detained him for a GOOD reason thats the problem.If you want to take your medias and leaders word on that fine but why dont they charge them with something and tell us what they are being held indefinitaley for?
So if the people above you think its a good reason to do something you have no problems with that?No niggling doubts, no questions?


Didnt specify any race? Come on now, you dont think people are that naive do you? It was clear what you meant, spin it anyway you want.
Yea he killed himself(so they say)..and you will never know why, it can be because of many different reasons(I will give you examples if you really need me to).
They detained him for a reason, Im sure he wasnt in there for tending to his garden after midnight.
Take my medias and leaders word for it? who said anything about them? I gave you MY opinion.
They arent going to tell the people why they are holding these people if there is indeed some risk in our security for doing so.

If the people above me think WHAT is a good reason for doing WHAT?


Edit- Tell me something, should I be upset over any of this? Cause I see no reason to be upset over this news at all.


[edit on 3-6-2009 by Common Good]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 06:36 AM
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This is what is going on all around the world in various different detention camps. People are taken against their will, not given a trial then thrown in to cells where they spend much time.

Some quite rightly deserve to be in these places others not so. Who decides and why,

The system is flawed. It is built on assumption and fear. How many deaths until people understand this ?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by franspeakfree
The system is flawed. It is built on assumption and fear. How many deaths until people understand this ?


Very true, the system is flawed. It's plain wrong to detain anyone out of pure suspicion, without a judge and a lawyer. What use are the courts when some people are allowed to bypass them? One only need to call "terrorist" and the rules don't apply anymore. History showed us to where that leads: First the constitutional law is damaged, then goes to hell altogether.

To Common god:
People got out of Guantanamo as free men. Only that is proof enough that people have been in there who were innocent.

I hope the suicides get enough media coverage to wake people up. These prisons are a danger for the constitutional state. Those who established them care not a damn about the rights and are not democrats or republicans but dictators - soon, if they are allowed to go on.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 08:04 AM
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So this terrorist training camp has claimed yet another inmate.

He's been stuck there since 2002. That's seven years of hell.

God knows what the poor bastard went through.

I cannot help feeling that Guantanamo bay will one day come back to shame all the Americans who support it.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
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I also doubt that he was in there for "no reason".
They probably had him detained for a GOOD REASON.
They just dont go down the street and say "hey, you look like a terrorist, you are going to jail indefinately cause you look like you are up to no good"



Are you serious? The statement quoted above embraces ignorance in such a majorly facetious way.

Think before you speak- or at least Google it before making a statement of such disregard for the innocent lives lost at Guantanamo. There have been hundreds of people held and tortured, only to be released out the back door after being assessed as "dried up" or "not useful" by their detainees.

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