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Obama working for the other side?

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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:09 AM
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reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
 


working for the other side? Obama? no way. there not stupid.
nah i,m sure they're happy w/ him right where he's at.




posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

People who fail to ask questions and find solutions will soon cease to be a free people.


Right on brother! I aree with that sentiment.


I didn't vote for Obama, I didn't like what his vision of "change" was from the beginning...

Saying that tho, I must also add, I didn't like McCain either...same wolf, different clothing IMO.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:16 AM
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Very good point.

But we have two other sides here.

We have those who would wage war on America, and we have those waging war in Armaggeddon - Christ versus the devil.

So, I ask you, is Obama on the side of good or evil?



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:22 AM
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I agree! omg onoz, not mccain! lol were really had the choice of a douchebag and a crap sandwhich!

We have to continue to be watchful over those we put in power over our country, lest they deceive us!

Im not asking anyone to take what im saying as fact........just a thought outside the box, we were warned by terrorist ........perhaps there was more to it then we thought?

Perhaps whats going on with him has NOTHING to do with Al Qaeda, either way, what hes doing to the country is inexcusable



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:40 AM
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well i call em like i see em and i dont see anything good about him.
from the info about him (Barry) to the same old promises that never
get delivered and always turn into lies, that game gets played out more
and more from the very beginning of the country the old bait n switch
for a stand bye . even they have got to be sick of it. but it works for
them.
now i have a question for you do you see any good in any of them? [stay
mainstream now]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:45 AM
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To be honest with you ........no i cant say that i do........there are a few on state and local levels , yes, but they are the ones still connected to the PEOPLE......where the decisions they make still effect themselves and their families.......after you get up so far into the money , then the corruption starts...sadly.

most higher ups i dont like, but there are some whether i like them or not, I dont think that they would INTENTIONALLY do things to destroy their country, like it seems this man is doing.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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OK, I am with you. I see evil in Obama, but I don't know why - just a gut feeling.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 04:53 AM
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listen you really need to wake up ,your still sleeping we don't put them in
power. they are born w/ the power to get where they are. but even then
they have to be groomed thier whole life for that seat of power. then get
selected not elected. get a grip on how deceitful a human being could possibly be then you might be in the ballpark. but only in the upperdeck.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 06:37 AM
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OBAMA WORKING FOR THE OTHER SIDE? .... PERHAPS.
His own actions scream that something with him isn't quite right.
His unending apology tour is disgusting. He's apologizing for
anything and everything American. It's vile. And it is DEAD WRONG.


Obama's European Apology Tour

Obama Apology Tour Continues - apologies for WWII 'Crimes'


Perhaps the most controversial is a planned speech in which President Obama will formally apologize for American ‘war crimes’ during the Second World War. This would be particularly comforting to Europeans, who have long condemned American foreign policy actions, especially regarding civilians.

Along with the Dresden fire-bombings, which German historians calculate killed 300,000 civilians, Obama will discuss other American actions. These include mistreatment of French civilians during the June 1944 invasion, including the killing of over 3,000 Milice members. In February 1945, the bridge over the Rhine River was bombed by an American B-29, killing over 300 fleeing refugees.


German historians, eh? Yeah ... like I'd believe nazified German historians from WWII.

What the heck is he going to Dresden Germany for? It has been acknowledged in the press that for the US president to go there is to informally apologize for WWII fire bombings. Someone needs to remind Obama that Germany was the agressor and deserved to be hit hard in WWII.

MSNBC - Obama's Apology Tour

the Obama Apology Tour does Turkey


By breaking the tradition of not criticizing your own country abroad, Barack Obama has undermined this nation in an attempt to be popular with Europeans and the Muslim world -- and to perceived as a "reasonable" American.


Wall Street Journal - The President's Apology Tour


Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."



Meanwhile, the desire for popularity has led Mr. Obama to embrace bad policies. Blaming America for the world financial crisis led him to give into European demands for crackdowns on tax havens and hedge funds. Neither had much to do with the credit crisis. Saying that America's relationship with Russia "has been allowed to drift" led the president to push for arms negotiations. But that draws attention away from America's real problems with Russia: its invasion of Georgia last summer, its bullying of Ukraine, its refusal to join in pressuring Iran to give up its nuclear ambitions, and its threats of retaliation against the Poles, Balts and Czechs for standing with the U.S. on missile defense.


The Obama Doctrine ... Europe 1, America 0


U.S. President Barack Obama’s debut in European summitry has been good for Europe but bad for America. While a highly deferential Obama gave in to all of the negotiating demands established by the Europeans, the Europeans in turn exploited Obama’s naïveté and refused to concede to any of his. Indeed, Obama not only allowed the Europeans to set the agendas of the recent G-20 and NATO summits, but in his zeal to curry favor with the Europeans, Obama even apologized for American primacy. Obama’s diplomatic philosophy, which seems to put the interests of other countries ahead of those of the United States, could be called the “Obama Doctrine.” If it is carried out in practice to its logical conclusion, it will have the long-term effect of gradually transferring U.S. geopolitical power and influence to Europeans and other American rivals.


the Apology Tour - Will It Ever End?


As we've seen before, Obama appears to betray a surprising lack of knowledge of American history. It seems that instead of actually having studied his own country's history, Obama has merely absorbed the ignorant, left-wing narrative that is peddled by Jeremiah Wright and others of his ilk. As a result, Obama not only confesses his country's sins overseas, he confesses wrongly.


The Obama World Apology Tour


Since Obama has been President he has given an interview to the Arabic satellite Al Arabiya, done a video for the Iranians and in Turkey recently told them that the U. S would never be at war with them. I was not aware that were ever at war with them or thinking about being. Oh well.

His first order as President was to order the closing of Guantanamo and promise not to torture any Muslims. Even though he has yet given any details of what he plans to do with our guest there. (I guess we are to call them that since we can’t call them terrorist.)

After kissing and hugging the Muslims, Obama will travel to Buchenwald, Germany to visit a former Nazi Concentration camp that he errorously claimed his uncle helped liberate during WWII last year during the election campaign. He will not have to apologize to the Germans, because they love him. Then he goes to Normandy, France for the 65th anniversary of the June 6, 1944 allied invasion. No doubt there will be a photo showing Obama walking along the beach with sadness on his face as he remembers that day. And then that will be followed by a photo of him walking on water.


The American Spectator - Poem about Obama's Apology Tour


Is this the message of his speech
In Cairo, where he’ll bow and preach?
We’ll change our ways to help assuage
The justifiable Muslim rage.
Still more U.S. self-flagellation
To fan Obama adulation;
In search of unrealistic ends --
That terrorists become our friends.


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[edit on 6/3/2009 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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Have you seen this ??
You REALLY should watch all 14 episodes, but for starters, watch this..




posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 07:13 AM
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For those who think Obama is 'working for the other side' and for those who don't .... this is interesting reading ....

Arab Reformers Fear Obama Will Abandon Democracy


Nour sees warning signs in the Obama administration's decision to slash funding for democracy-promotion programs in Egypt by 70 percent.


If Egypt isn't handled juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right ... it'll explode.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 07:19 AM
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ChemBreather - at about 4:45 - 4:50 on that video they show a chart. What is that chart? It has the egyptian pyramid on it and is black. Do you know what it is and do you have a link??? Thanks.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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Thank you guys so much for all the information, this is some truly disturbing news, I think more people need to make themselves aware of whats going on, and draw their own conclusions..........either way you cut it, this is looking pretty damn scary



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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What I find funny and interesting is, most of the people on this site believe in some form of the NWO. If you believe that then Obama has to be the bad guy. McCain, too. Anyone who makes it to the final two must be "the bad guy".
That aside, I never loved him. I voted for him because I thought we had a better chance with him than McCain. However, I do not know if I'll ever vote again. It seems to be a worthless waste of time.
Do I like what he has done since coming into office?
Mostly no.
Why?
Well, for starters, he is continuing and/or deepening most of the policies I hated the Bush regime for. Our civil liberties (which were my top priority) seem to be on the verge of extinction.
I do like that he is intelligent and can speak the English language properly.
I do not mind him reaching out to our "enemies". Diplomacy should be the 1st option unless we are in a dire situation.
Do I like the way he always approaches foreign powers?
No. But it is a better approach than Bush's, in my opinion. Not everyone can please your every desire.
You mentioned Israel: I don't even know for sure where he stands on that issue. He has not drawn a bright line. I am glad he's attempting to find a peaceful solution to the problem. I do worry sometimes that he will sell them out completely. Either way, they will have to compromise. They once gave into all of Yassir Arafat's demands (besides the aqueducts that the Israeli's built) they will have to find their way back to that sort of thinking again.
Spending: I hated the way Bush started this spending and I hate the way Obama is continuing this spending. We are @#$!@#$. I am constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop. If it is going to, I wish it would hurry up. The suspense is killing me.
Anyway, no, I do not believe AT ALL that this man is the messiah. I never did. I'm trying to give him a chance but, he keeps disappointing me (for the most part). Time will tell what will be.
We live in scary times. Whether or not there is a secret cabal(s) of evil-doers looking for total world domination, we (the average human) seem to be getting the short end of the stick. I sometimes think it is just predatory capitalism. I look at the different economic ways to rule a country as tools. There is a place for most of them. We need some socialism to survive. I think capitalism is preferable as the overarching matrix. However, it has become completely predatory. They research and research until they know the demographics, where you fit into those demographics, how to get you to buy, sell, and # yourself. I sometimes think it is an evil cabal of people. Other times, I think it's just a bunch of Corporate !@#suckers trying to get your money. The MSM are just corporate tools. They have a station for most of the major demographics. Those stations cater to their demographic and spin the news the way THEY KNOW you want to hear it.
Anyway, got a little of subject. Sorry. Hope I contributed.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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Right on just hard to see for most!



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:03 AM
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Id say its pretty evident we are being lied to......

My concern isnt if he is muslim or any of that i dnot care, its WHY he would feel the need to hide it? If he was honest about it and really running on his "transparancy" campaign , then why all the hiding of the information?



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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At first I thought maybe this so called change would be good then I started paying real attention to this ridiculous president and learned he and his cabinet were all liars and tax cheats. This is a change no one needs and no I'm not a racist but a black president that screws up everything is the same as a white president that does the same. It's time to wake up and elect someone that actually can change things unfortunately by the time that happens we may already be screwed. Also this apologizing for America will do nothing but make us look weak and apparently Obama seems to think that's ok this guy shouldn't be a fast food manager let alone president of our once strong country.


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