reply to post by milsta
I would say in regards to an afterlife, the idea would make me define what a life is, an after-life... before-life? If anything, this life of ours
seems so limiting and experiences like OBE's have helped me define what I accepted as my existence.
Theres a good book that covers that question, its a very light book, easy to read, mostly on technique called "Leaving the Body".
In the book, the guy did a test, he astral projected into his bedroom, and blew out a candle in that room, then woke himself up. What he realised was
that when he woke up, the candle was still lit.
During my own experiences, I noticed that even though I thought I was projecting out of my body, into my house, (it looked and felt that way at
first).. I then realised there was some differeneces. I remember hearing the voices of my family talking and I was hesistant to go upstairs, thinking
they might see me as a ghost and I wouldn't know how to deal with it. I went into the bathroom and noticed some differences, some things that
werent' there in my physical world, like a house coat, shampoo bottles, which I then proceeded to levitate with my mind. I won't go over the full
experience and the differences, but there WAS differences.
The whole experience had a different feel that was nothing like dreaming to me. It felt so weightless, stress-free, vibrant and I'll tell you this..
I thought this experience was wierd, but when I woke up, clicking back into the physical existence i thought felt even wierder. At that time, it
seemed that on all aspects, the waking world is the strange one, its a heavy place, and also weighs heavy on our minds.
The soul projecting? I'm not sure, that is what do you define as a soul? I would say it is a matrix of code, a form of energy, a lens/focusing point
for something that transcends logical design and a limited vantage point. I would suspect that our soul, or consciousness is a program like everything
else of dual nature, that is to say it is a frequency, it is binary.
Next I would ask myself what does it mean to project if I'm also asking myself what does it mean to be "here".
By that thought, if the astral plane was another reality/dimensional layer of our consciousness, I could understand how one could teleport around
seemingly, through a network of planes, if we exist on a single point.
There is no distance, only what our mind percieves. Thats my thought, and that is also why I feel there is no danger in astral projection, which is
why we'll never get "stuck out of body".
I believe the "real" world is as much a dream as the astral plane could be percieved to be. It's just that this real world has such a feeling of
limitation, like we're boxed in, it really makes us feel like we live in this little cube and can't concieve of an existence otherwise.
Aside from that, in this book they did a test where this guy went out of body, and looked in a box in another room and told the scientists what was in
it. It can be looked at like remote viewing, that is recieving images into the pineal gland, or the brow chakra, recieving this energy.. but I believe
with projection, its like remote viewing only you actually go there in a sense.
This book also talked about reports of seeing people while projecting (look like ghosts with the silver cord I guess), and this to me implies a couple
of things, like one theory I had about ghosts.
We have our normal perceptional range which is limited by the individual, most of us see only wants on this plane and even then argueably, a small
fraction of it. I think why ghosts are percieved as translucent or fading in and out is because they are drifiting into this transitional phase
between realities. When I would go out of body, I saw a couple figures, manifestations of my own fears, but what I realised was they got more visible
as I slipped out more and more, and started to dissapear as I retreated back into myself, I would compare this to the ghost case.
I think to some degree we are actually projecting an energy of some sorts because of how drained a lot of people feel after doing this... I remember
in one plane, I had no voice, and the more I tried to yell, the more tired I felt.. When I woke up, i was dragging my body around all day until maybe
3 in the afternoon, the same thing happened in the next experience but I was less tired. Now adays i don't feel the drain. I still don't quite
understand, but I believe energy is involved here, and it exerts itself if we let it. I think our understanding plays a strong role.
This.. silver cord, I have never seen it, neither has a freind of mine who lucid dreams/projects all the time. We both agree that it seems like a
limited concept, a fearful/protective influence. I still think that it could very well be another method of projection. It is believed that we have
many subtle layers of consciousness, energy bodies. I have heard someone call this cord biological before, and I thought that was interesting since
people in the "real world" report seeing this cord off ghostly looking projectors in their home, even though argueably..they aren't really there..
this comes back to what I was saying about ghosts, and why I think ghosts are often unaware of our presence, let alone their own state of existence. I
think being a ghost could be compared to a dream that just doesn't easily become lucid for some. That lucidity or realisation is what makes us move
on and realise we have the freedom to do what we want, but more then that, we have our own purposes to fullfill.
Back onto the concept of fading in and out and this silver cord, I was thinking about ectoplasm.. a sort of manifestation of spirit energy that fades
in and out just like the ghosts and this is what I think of...
It is speculated that life on this planet began as a pile of goo, amino acids and proteins. I think of a puddle of goo as the building blocks, and i
think of ectoplasm... if this plane of existence is a dream plane in a sense like all the rest... I picture it like this... this spirit/creation
energy vibrates outwards and as it vibrates to this frequency, this reality, it enters this reality and manifests, this creative spirit energy turns
into "matter".. matter of course just being a label to a state of energy.
There has been reports of physical interactions with ghosts and this is what I think of... there energy transitions over into our "reality plane"..
and their energy assumes a state of matter.
So yeah that was a bit of a lengthy post but what I wanted to illustrate was, what does it really mean to live? Is there an after-life or just a
difference state of consciousness? Do we just exist on a single point?
I look at the phyiscal body as an expression of energy, a concept of the mind, something that goes beyond the brain... the brain just being a control
center and interface, a representational/expression of the mind energy. People's body's reflect certain astrological characteristics, I believe all
that we are is an expression of something beyond form. Its interesting how chakra energy centers are linked to the endocrine system of the body. Its
interesting how I can use various sounds to and beliefs to affect my body, and the world around me. When I think of the idea of everything being
vibrating energy at the core level, then I don't see any true seperation.. I look to astrology, and nature, and see everything as a dance, there is
no truly individual action that is exempt from the flow of nature, our thoughts are one, but its our individual energy that filters how we think.
With this all in mind, I don't find psychic powers, telepathy and telekinesis in our "physical world" to be a stretch.
I just see everything as intelligence, flowing energy, truthful nature, and duality. I no longer define what goes on in or outside of something, I
just see it all as one in the same.