Originally posted by freedom_88
wow it seems like most people know how to do it except me ....but im on my way

Start by pining a length of rope to the ceiling above you. Have it hanging within arms reach so you can easily reach up and touch it. Reach out and touch it frequently until you are used to where it is in your mind. By being able to reach out and touch the rope you used to the spatial coordinates of where the invisible, imaginary rope is. This grows both in your mind and hence as a thought form, making it easier to imagine yourself reaching out and climbing the imaginary rope. You do NOT have to actually visualize, or see, the rope at any time, just know where it is supposed to be. Reaching out and pulling on this imaginary rope shifts the bodily awareness induced point of consciousness out of the body with a natural action that puts direct pressure on one point of the etheric body.

The Technique Using a meditation technique of your choosing place yourself into a state of deep relaxation. Reach out with your imaginary hands and pull yourself hand over hand up the invisible, imaginary rope hanging above you. Try and imagine the feel of a rope in your hands.

You will feel a slight dizzy sensation inside you as you do this. This is caused by exerting dynamic pressure on the etheric body. The dizzy sensation comes from the etheric body loosening. This feeling of vertigo will intensify the more you pull on the rope. Just keep climbing, hand over hand, ever upwards, and you will feel the heavy sensation come over you. The pressure you are exerting on your etheric body will force you into the trance state. Ignore this when it happens and concentrate on what you are doing. Keep climbing and you will feel your chakras open in response to the pressure. Next you will feel the vibrations start, your whole body will seem to be vibrating and you will feel paralysed. Next you will feel yourself coming free of your body. You will buzz slightly as you feel yourself coming out of your body. You will exit your body in the direction of your imaginary rope and will be hovering above your body. You're free at last...


*The Moving Anchor. After meditating into a state of total deep relaxation, imagine an object about 6 feet in front of your eyes (assuming that you are lying down). Now feel this object pulling at you like a magnet. Once you can see the object clearly in your minds eye and feel the pull of the object on you, begin to move the object slowly towards you. Just a small amount at first. As the object moves towards you feel the pull getting stronger. Now move it back again (the pull gets weaker as you do). Now repeat the process moving the object closer each time and feeling the pull becoming stronger and stronger as the object comes closer. Once you are comfortable with the movement of the object begin the process again, only this time the movement of the object should be a fluid motion, and as the object moves to and fro it should be like a wave. You should also feel this wave on yourself as the pull gets stronger and weaker and stronger again. Finally as the object virtually reaches you the strength of the pulling force combined with the wavelike motion will simply pull you right out of your physical body...

There are many many ways to do this,^here are 2 examples.

Once I tried a similar method to the rope method, the ladder method when I woke up before time in the morning. I got out untill my waist, but didn't get further, probably because I was still tired.

what about when someone yanks you out, how should you prepare, should you be sleeping????well i am waiting for help because i cant do it on my own!!!

Originally posted by TheBandit795
Once I tried a similar method to the rope method, the ladder method when I woke up before time in the morning. I got out untill my waist, but didn't get further, probably because I was still tired.

Of course, because you was tired,your body will force you into trance/sleep state. Ignore this when it happens and concentrate on what you are doing...When you try OOBE, have to be all clear in the head(not tired), and completly satisfied(not hungry, or sick..ect..) you get it...If you feel ready to do it, then you have a chance, or else you will wake up next morning remembering not much or even nothing...

I like this whole take on the spiritual side of these OOBE's. However some people don't believe that they are in some other plane that actually exists. They think it's in their minds, just like a dream is. This is the same view I share. So if someone were to pull me out while I was trying to OBE I would just dismiss it as my subconscious mind. However you say that you actually met the person who helped you out. I find this intriguing but it doesn't change my view on the phenomenon. Anyways, congrats.

The ringing in your ears is Astral hearing I've read. If when you are in a relaxed state, and you can concentrate on the ringing in both of your ears, and your third eye at the same time. The chance is very great for you to come out.

You know what??? It's still too rare for me to come out of my body regular times. Happens once every 6 or so much months still. So hereby I ask for the person that does the pulling out, to pull me out also when I'm trying to astral project and to remind me to fill my astral body with energy via the silver cord.

Thanks in advance...

wow there is a lot of really good advice in this thread, thanks for the info italiano, ill think abput using these methods, though i am currently using the ladder method as bandit mentioned, anyways thanks for all the info people!

Sorry its late at night and i can't be bothered to read all of this thread. RiverGoddess, and indeed anyone else who wishes to do obes, i encourage you to read "out of body experiences - how to have them and what to expect" by Robert Peterson. Its the greatest book on the subject i have ever read. I havent had one yet, but i will soon... Right, I'm off to have an attempt before i go to sleep. Night!

Ahhh, does no one want to answer my questions??? Am I asking in the wrong thread?? Any answers would really be appreciated. Thanks

Er sry double post accident... i really didnt mean to plz forgive me

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Originally posted by SimpleTruth
Are the terms OOBE and astral projection synomynous?

Basically they are the same thing. Astral projection is a more formal way of saying it but OOBE is more direct as most people can understand what out of body experiance is.

Is being out of body supposedly how it will be for us after we die, or is it a different thing?

Personally i dont know. I dont know if anyone else would know either becuase they have not been dead. There are spirts in the astral plain but i dont think all of them go there, just ones who wish to stay.

How does your physical body remain living if you leave it?

Your spirit leaves your body. All that is left is a cord that attaches you with your body but your body stays where you left it. Its the same as if you die, you leave your body behind...

How does it not shut down?

Well your brain and you mind are two different things. Your brain can keep your body running normall while you leave. As well you are still attached to your body to get energy from as well as feed info if you needed i would asume.

Are there limits on how long or often it's safe to be out of body?

Well basically it takes energy to do it so it all depends on how much energy you have. As well it also depends on how focused you are. It is safe if you know what you are doing and dont get caught up in the astral plain.

Does it make you really tired after you do it?

I have never done it but from my knowledge it should.

This phenomena sounds really intriguing to me. I would love to do it if it turns out to be safe. As a christian however, I'm aware that there are dark forces in the spirit realm as well like demons, and so that makes me a bit wary. Does anyone have information on that?

I dont know what spirits lurk out there. Lost souls, possibly demons, lost souls for sure though, maybe people from the future or the past.

The OBE sounds interesting. I was wondering if it leaves you feeling tired. I'm also thinking of when I thought I was sleeping but was instead visualizing some faraway places but felt tired in the morning after doing all of that.

Question for OBE, I read a story about someone having an experience where apparently they might have been in heaven in the future. They stated that people appeared wearing the clothes they died in. Also when people appeared, they stated that meant that they died and were suddenly in heaven. I guess I'm thinking of this because the person who posted the message was worried about one of his friends who was or will be in his early 30's suddenly appeared (meaning he died) and was wearing some kind of fatigues such as in the military. The suggestion was there that a bad war would break out to force a draft for those up into their 30's. Of course he also stated the hope that maybe his friend simply got interested in some kind of camp activity and had an unfortunate accident. Can someone use an OBE to travel to heaven and through time?

The OBE sounds interesting but I don't think I've experienced it. Someone would need to put a billboard in a public place and keep it secret and see if I can tell them what it says. Hmmm, maybe I should just get more sleep.

WOW! what a totally awsome idea youve posted here!
I am going to do this myself!

The past few days Ive been getting alot of u2u's about the OOBE experiance. Folks i gotta tell you....I STILL cant do this on my own....I KNOW its the real deal for Ive experianced it...but I have yet to be able to 'get out' on my own....... Folks are also asking me the name of my helping friend and all I can say to that is NO CAN DO....I cant and will not tell the name of this person.

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just a little edit and note, in no way do i use the term yanker as someone actually being an american. i mean it literally, as in to yank something, in this case, an etheric form out of someone else. thxs

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by the looks of it these etheric yankers might have a business up there sleeves. nah, i know its not something to be commercialised, and that only a certain few can be chosen. based on what i wonder?

anyways, a month or two ago, before i would wake up, id swear that someone either sat on the edge of my bed against me, or tried to hug me, else that's what it felt like anyways. it happened two mornings in a row! of course all i did was turn around grumpily and wondered wtf was going on, them went back to sleep a while longer. i asked my mother since she is a spiritualistic/religious person, and she said it was my guardian angel. i dont know if it was that, some other oobe traveller, some ghost relative, or just my mind. who knows i guess.

havent been working on doing oobe's for some time, however i have been eating healthier, so maybe i'll try again tonight. no etheric yankers to help it seems. i suppose if you want something done, you just gotta do it yourself.

dfh out.

[edit on 13-8-2004 by deafence#]

no Defence#...no money scheme going on here. Before you even made such a claim maybe you should have offered up cash$ via u2u and see how far that got ya.
I have NO CLUE who this person would or wouldnt choose to 'YANK' out lol...it not my biz........but I will be FOREVER gratefull for the experiance they gave to me as a gift. WHY me? ~I dunno~ I have no idea why I was gifted with such a trip. I also have no idea if anyone else from this thread was likewise treated, I was not informed about it nor have I expected to be.
I quit smoking 4 months back...and am eating right....and keep trying with the suggestions Ive been givin in this thread....I can get to a place where its SPINNING and RUSHING...but I dont hear that sound...the wind sound...YET. I KNOW for a fact its a real thing to be able to conciously leave ones body, and I shall keep trying.
My 'YANKER' friend did send me a book...called
~THE FOUR AGREEMENTS~by Don Miguel Ruiz...and was told to read this over and over untill it becomes 2nd nature to me........so I am sharing that info with you all, for this book is truly amazing. Its NOT a how to OOBE however, its more of a way of living in this world with inegrity of soul.

it wasnt a claim, it was pure sarcasm, why else would i say "nah, i know its not something to be commercialised" right after i sarcasticly suggested it? anyways, no biggy. i also didnt think that people would take the YANKER comment so seriously either, note again, the sarcastic humour. lighten up peoples!

update on oobe: last night there was a ringing/whimpering noise in my left ear for about 10 seconds or so. the whimper sounded like it was from "someone", but who or what is the question.

dfh out.

Anyone know if it's possible for someone who is conscious to see someone in the astral or having an OBE experience without doing so themselves? I was wondering if it might be possible to catch glimpses of someone in another plane of existence.

A question related to the above, could someone doing an OBE be perceived as a ghost and accidently scare the living daylights out of someone? I may be remembering a dream where I was a ghost and just looking around but someone spotted me and screamed. Next thing I know is I'm back in bed and awake.

Originally posted by deafence#a month or two ago, before i would wake up, id swear that someone either sat on the edge of my bed against me, or tried to hug me, else that's what it felt like anyways. it happened two mornings in a row! of course all i did was turn around grumpily and wondered wtf was going on, them went back to sleep a while longer. i asked my mother since she is a spiritualistic/religious person, and she said it was my guardian angel. i dont know if it was that, some other oobe traveller, some ghost relative, or just my mind. who knows i guess.

havent been working on doing oobe's for some time, however i have been eating healthier, so maybe i'll try again tonight. no etheric yankers to help it seems. i suppose if you want something done, you just gotta do it yourself.
dfh out.

I doubt it was your guardian angel, but...it's possible to be some etheric charge from someone that still wants to communicate with you, but it's no longer incarnated. The etheric charge, after a person dies, often stays much longer here in the 3D realm before it dissipates. That's why we should all have calm, and quiet deaths, to give opportunity, to give the proper time, to our Spirit, removes all our bodies, from our physical dead body. Usually it takes 3 days. During that period, no one should move the dead person, in order to not interfere with the process. Remember... to die in this World, is to Reborn in a Greater World.
If someone suffers a sudden and unexpected death, the etherical body of ourselves, (our electrical charge of our body, if you know what i mean), will not have the time to get dissipated, because it wont understand that the physical body...already died.

So... it will be wandering arround, trying to do the same things that he did, when he was surrounding his (now dead) physical body. That's what a GHOST is!!!
It could be a ghost, hehe

Originally posted by xxKrisxx
You WILL receive it in the astral world. Upon meditation, you can ask, for help to escape the body at the crucial moment "in between" wakefulness and sleep. Maintain awareness to this moment and allow the body to relax until you do not feel "physical" anymore.

Focus and ask someone or ask your "higher self" for help.

Inviting someone else to help you, is an open door which some do not choose to open. I am in no way implying this is a "dangerous" choice, for I believe there is no real danger here. But negativity is to be avoided for a successful experience. Awareness of negativity will cut off your experience totally and make youfeel vulnerable.

I requested someone help me and when I "felt" hands I simply woke up because it was startling. I get stuck often.

Focus and meditation will take you into projection. Personal problems can affect concentration and limit your chances of "getting out".

Clear your mind and think about any "problems" so that thought doesnt interfere and affect concentration.

Comfortably, find the method that best brings you to the brink of sleep. Focus on awareness and projecting. Ignore sensations and hallucination which naturally accompany the process.

As you feel the "slip" or hear noises or feel vibrations, that is your signal, to attempt to move your astral fingers ann hands and attempt to roll out or sit up out of the physical.

Sometimes, simply the focus on a place or a person will project you directly to them. This is a more direct method of escape.
If you wonder whether it was a dream or a projection, then most likely it was a dream.

Thank you: you have described the process in so few words, and better than I have ever seen it described before. I found that while reading you, I could almost feel the sensation I felt the one time I projected succesfully while awake.

Others should find this valuable too!

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