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posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 05:20 PM
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Sorry if im a little off the subject here but I was just in the aliens and ufos forum and noticed a thread titled 'Could Inexpensive CCTV Equipment prove an abductees case?' and it got me thinking a little..

If you went to bed or just tried projecting through the day etc... and you had a high resolution video camera aimed at you.. I wonder if it would capture anything.. Has this been mentioned before or has anyone tried it? I'm quite interested in this because nearly all the OBEs that I have tend to be in my own room or somewhere else in my house.




posted on Jan, 12 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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Clarky- I dunno!

as for me-I just had to pop on and say no more lucid dreams...maybe I need to ask if anyone wants to tell me something...but I gotta tell you...I haven't found myself able to stand in my livingroom and just say that unprompted-it was hard enough when I felt prompted!

Anyway, had to share this...it's been so on my mind lately I guess that last night I dreamed that I was having lucid dreams-how freakin weird is THAT! I also dreamed I was having OOBE! It was soooooo weird because I could *FEEL* it! and it felt so good.....

I dreamed I kept starting to have OOBE-when you get all tingly...or I think some people here have said they feel like they are buzzing...and I would feel that tingly feeling, and that light, raising feeling...and then I would panic and quickly go back into my body and have that "funny" feeling when I as physical again and wake up with a jerk too... "wake-up" being part of my dream that is!

So then I'd dream it happened a few times, and then I REALLY awoke and what was weird was I could still remembere how it felt-that feeling I haven't had since I was a kid and did it often...so I guess it's just a strong memory to remember how it *felt* in my dream, you know?

AlLl and all it was odd because it happened more than once in one night-as the lucid dreams had-and each time I "woke up" in my dream after that I wasn't sure..was I awake or not...seemed so sense I had been sleeping...of course when I really awkoe, there was no question...which I could have remembered that in my dream...and looked at my hands...or jumped or something...

weird stuff...but altogether -I love it anyway...just wondering where it's all going to take me...and if I can hold out on the habits and addictions and mindsets that may have supressed it all for so many years....

I'm tryin!
seems like this would be the only payoff...but I'm sure there's more....and I'll see mkore benefits soon...



posted on Jan, 12 2006 @ 09:49 PM
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I should of come to this thread before posting my experience as a new topic when I joined ATS. Here is a quote from my thread..


Originally posted by DustintheWind
Hello everyone!
I thought I would share this experience with you and see if anyone else has had this happen to them. I have been practicing on having OOBE's for the last couple of years without much success. I have achieved seperation 3 times but to only watch my wife and I sleeping, never going anywhere else (astral) and then slamming back into my body when I try to move away. Well this last time I think I closed our door to the bedroom! My wife usually leaves it open so she can hear the kids at night, and so the cats can have free reign. I always like to shut it when I go to bed though, cause I can't sleep with any noises, and I like the darkness. Ayways to make a long story short, before the last OOBE I experienced, I remember the door being open when I went to bed. I acheived seperation, was again looking at myself and my wife asleep. I can remember looking around our room but stopped when I noticed the door was open. I said to myself, I wish that door was closed! To my surprise the door closed! Rather loud too because it woke my wife up which in turn brought me out of my OOBE. To this day she still thinks it was one of the kids that did it. I don't want to bother telling her I think it was me until I can prove that this is possible to do in an OOBE. Does anyone have thoughts or opinions/experiences with this?

DitW




Well just the short amount of time I have spent reading TheRiverGoddess and AkashicWanderer's information on OOBE's and Lucid Dreaming I am leaning more towards my experience as a Lucid Dream. I am wondering if you (TheRiverGoddess or AkashicWarrior) could help me understand this phenomenon better. I will continue reading the posts in this thread to see what I can learn also. Thank you in advance!



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 11:06 AM
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I had another OBE last night but it was really wierd, I was half awake and half out of body like my eyes kept rolling and I could see and hear the tv but at the same time my body was trying to seperate. Eventually I finally seperated and I was stood outside our house looking up at my bedroom window. I could see perfectly for a change too allthough it was dark outside and I tried taking in details of car numberplates on our street to try and verify later but I kept moving forward and spinning round and couldn't stop myself. At the moment it seems I iether have clear vision and cant move on my own accord or the other way round.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 10:07 PM
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clarky
don't feel too frustrated, think of it as baby steps-you are achieving something others never experience...don't be disappointed in what isn't, be hopeful for what could be!


I understnad your frustration-believe me...I had a lucid dream...but it was more like a dream within a dream again and I awke feeling frustrated...so close and yet so far...you know?

I dreamed about stuff that wasn'[t adding up and finally it hit me..I'm dreaming...so I thought...look at my hands-and just so you know-I LOOKED at my hands in my dream people, but even as I beagn to I said "THIS IS DEFINATELY a dream because I'd not even consider it otherwise...so as I saw my hands-looked unreal-I thought to myself "OK, now I am fully awake-because I thought look at my hands and I did it-so I am dreaming lucidly! WHo hoo"...and the theme of my dream pretty much disappated but some "characters" remained-nearly brainless now...

so I started to order them to do or be things and it wasn't working...I then I was almost yelling-demanding they be who I wanted them to be...and when it wasn't working out I said, but I know I'm dreaming-I should have controland I jumped and told them look, watch I'll prove I'm having a lucid dream-I can fly...and as I jumped I lifted off about 3 feet came back down did it again higher and back down -like being on a trmpoline but with no impact or real effort to jump-and the their time was the charm and I flew over them and around them to prove I was dreaming...

but the dream still refused to be controled by me...just myself was wwithin my control-this was disappointing...and soon the dream took on a direction/theme out of my control and I wnet with the flow, but awoke very disappointed.


but then I thought...that was cool...I looked at my hands and flew...ah the power of suggestion-lol-and yes I not only thought it but I DID look at my hands and then I even said to myself- "now I am fully awake in my dream" weird...but still further then many people ever go, you know?

So I'm going to remain optimistic that I am retraining myself to do that which was natural as a child again one day

yeah yeah...

[edit on 16-1-2006 by think2much]



posted on Jan, 17 2006 @ 09:25 AM
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I think we ought to have a lucid dreaming thread myself
I'd love to share some of my lucid dreams that I have.. they always involve flying and telekinesis and experimenting.



posted on Jan, 17 2006 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Clarky
I think we ought to have a lucid dreaming thread myself
I'd love to share some of my lucid dreams that I have.. they always involve flying and telekinesis and experimenting.


not a bad idea Clarky- the way things are going for you and I-as I think we're on the same page/in the same boat, etc... but ultimately, I would really like to have a good OOBE again as I did when younger...and maybe even aspire to the astral plane from there...something I wasn't even aware of when having OOBE as a kid...

but until I get there...you are right, I shouldn't be clogging up this one with my silly dreams and I do have some ideas for a thread anyway...I think I'll go start one...so come and find me.



posted on Jan, 17 2006 @ 08:24 PM
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based on my little experiance on Astral Projecting(ive done it in total 2 times on my own, not that difficult really). Nothing can take your body, you can go anywhere but heaven(heaven really isnt a place at all) Hell is A real area FYI. my religion(gnostic) is based on Aping throughout my entire life. you cannot die while is the astral plane unless by a natural event(ie old age) (BTW im 17 years old doing this and believe me, i love it. if you want to know what flying is like, here is the one and only chance). (BTW this is all in a random order, if you havnt noticed) you can visit the dead if thay havnt left the plane by that time, the reason they stay is because they are lost souls so to say. they dont even know they died, the best for them is to tell them what has happened and they are dead. you can see your friends there and help them out of thier bodies if need b. and if there is anything i missed, ask me a question about it and i will answer it to the best of my abilites.



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 07:20 AM
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Hi,

I read this thread on and off and I have a few questions. Although I'm extremely interested in APing I never have the time to make the concious effort but I've had a few experiences when I wasn't initially trying.

When I was lying in bed this morning on my side I was dozing and I heard that strange sound in my ear, although strangely it was in on ear and not the other (the side I was lying on).

So I attempted to sit up. This happened maybe three times - the first two times I felt the sensation of getting up but it was dark and just looked like the back of my eyelids.

The third time I got up I was looking, but not with my eyes and I could see the room I was in - I couldn't see my body when I looked back at the bed. I looked at my wrist and I was wearing some bracelets that I sometimes wear (but never in bed). I moved towards the wall and I couldn't see my feet but it felt like a walking sensation. I tried to move through the wall but I couldn't - I couldn't feel the wall I just couldn't move forward. So I went and opened the door and I saw one of the doors opposite my room open. Then I woke up. I think on the second attempt there was a definite feeling of breathlessness or shock.

Anyway, I think my mind just created this because I was so desperate to have an AP experience. The door that was open was shut when I got up to look and also during my experience I later noticed that the door was in a slightly different position to where it was in reality.

So it has characteristics of a dream, but it was quite vivid and there were strange sensations with it. Anyone got any ideas or suggestions? Next time this happens I'm thinking of calling for help to get out in some way.

Oh and one more thing - when I looked at the bracelets on my wrist at the time I thought wow how detailed I could see, but then when I woke up I thought it wasn't that detailed, maybe my mind was just telling me that it was detailed.... I don't know....

[edit on 22-1-2006 by Nova]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 08:59 AM
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you were there, but not really. you kinda went frim a AP stage to dreaming...



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 08:59 AM
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you were there, but not really. you kinda went frim a AP stage to dreaming...



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 10:09 PM
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deja vu



I'm going to lose points for saying that huh?

No, I wont leave it as a one liner, I wanted to ask if anyone has ever heard of bringing somone/something "back" from the AP etc...good or bad...can it be done? Has it been done? etc...

I know weve spoken of spirits there and or inhabiting the body...but what about the door we open AP...letting things through from there as well...



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 10:31 PM
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well if you believe in mind over matter, yes you can bring things back. of course it is very very very etc... hard. but im sure can be done

edit - hehe forgot the rest. now as i was saying... im not sure if it has been done. the way to do it i will leave to you to find.... if you have any more questions ill answer

[edit on 22-1-2006 by rekar]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 10:34 PM
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This is an excellant book for OOBE guidance & instructions on how to:

Out-Of-Body Adventures, by Rick Stack

book

[edit on 22-1-2006 by Chris6]

[edit on 22-1-2006 by Chris6]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by rekar
well if you believe in mind over matter, yes you can bring things back. of course it is very very very etc... hard. but im sure can be done

edit - hehe forgot the rest. now as i was saying... im not sure if it has been done. the way to do it i will leave to you to find.... if you have any more questions ill answer



um....no!
I don't want to find out! I was thinking more along the lines of bringin a spirit back, or not an actual spirit, but...how would I describe it...something like evil, or unpersonalifed negative energy etc...yk?

I hadf a lucid dream and when I awke for quite some time the negative energy of my dream was present-by sight and "feeling" and I wasn't sure...did it originate in my physical world, and penetrate my dream...or...did it come through my lucid dream into my physical world, as I becgan to consciously wake myself because the evil in my dream was scarying me

SOme talk has been made that OOBE and lusid dreaming may be more connected than I realized...because though we know what a lucid dream is, it doesn't mean, you are NOT OOB when experiencing it, or any dream...

AP to another plane etc of course isn't a lucid dream-it's reality...but "reality" seems to be a more subjective term I am realizing...

also, if we are to split hairs about OOBE and lucid dreaming...who is to say that doors do not exist betwen the two...

so I just wondering about these doors...all these doors...and what happens when we pass back through them from one state-whatever it may be...and another...

[edit on 22-1-2006 by think2much]



posted on Jan, 22 2006 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Chris6
This is an excellant book for OOBE guidance & instructions on how to:

Out-Of-Body Adventures, by Rick Stack



looks like a good book

...and only one left at Amazon...if I dind't have 3 books, literally right here on my desk I'm attempting to read already, I mightve bought it!

Thanks for the tip



posted on Jan, 23 2006 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by think2much

Originally posted by rekar
well if you believe in mind over matter, yes you can bring things back. of course it is very very very etc... hard. but im sure can be done

edit - hehe forgot the rest. now as i was saying... im not sure if it has been done. the way to do it i will leave to you to find.... if you have any more questions ill answer



um....no!
I don't want to find out! I was thinking more along the lines of bringin a spirit back, or not an actual spirit, but...how would I describe it...something like evil, or unpersonalifed negative energy etc...yk?

I hadf a lucid dream and when I awke for quite some time the negative energy of my dream was present-by sight and "feeling" and I wasn't sure...did it originate in my physical world, and penetrate my dream...or...did it come through my lucid dream into my physical world, as I becgan to consciously wake myself because the evil in my dream was scarying me

SOme talk has been made that OOBE and lusid dreaming may be more connected than I realized...because though we know what a lucid dream is, it doesn't mean, you are NOT OOB when experiencing it, or any dream...

AP to another plane etc of course isn't a lucid dream-it's reality...but "reality" seems to be a more subjective term I am realizing...

also, if we are to split hairs about OOBE and lucid dreaming...who is to say that doors do not exist betwen the two...

so I just wondering about these doors...all these doors...and what happens when we pass back through them from one state-whatever it may be...and another...

[edit on 22-1-2006 by think2much]


well, in that case, who says they arent already here? From What I was tought(and this comes from a long line of teaching, from Alot over at gnosticweb.org) the astral is the fifth dimension, it is the same as the 3rd(where we are currently) but without some restrictions(Gravity for one). when you dram, you are there. when you AP, you go there. when you die, for a short period, yes, you go there. Now apparently the 2 dimensions are hand in hand, the only 'door' is how to consiously get there(when you dream, your not, thats why some feel almost real)



posted on Jan, 23 2006 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by rekar
well, in that case, who says they arent already here?
no one, not even was I trying to imply they/it (negative energy isn't already here...but how does one pass from their realm to ours is more my concern.


Originally posted by rekarFrom What I was tought(and this comes from a long line of teaching, from Alot over at gnosticweb.org) the astral is the fifth dimension, it is the same as the 3rd(where we are currently) but without some restrictions(Gravity for one). when you dram, you are there. when you AP, you go there. when you die, for a short period, yes, you go there. Now apparently the 2 dimensions are hand in hand, the only 'door' is how to consiously get there(when you dream, your not, thats why some feel almost real)


well, yes this is how most people perceive things I believe-different dimensions=different planes=different "reality" but all reality...it's the doors I speak of...if we can easily move through them, and do so inadvertantly in everyday dreaming-can they as easily pass through? Or through usually through our doors, or only through more powerful pulls like lucid dreaming or AP conscious OOBE's is my question-wondering if we havae any knowledge/experience of how that plays out, you know?



posted on Jan, 23 2006 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by think2much

Originally posted by rekar
well, in that case, who says they arent already here?
no one, not even was I trying to imply they/it (negative energy isn't already here...but how does one pass from their realm to ours is more my concern.


Originally posted by rekarFrom What I was tought(and this comes from a long line of teaching, from Alot over at gnosticweb.org) the astral is the fifth dimension, it is the same as the 3rd(where we are currently) but without some restrictions(Gravity for one). when you dram, you are there. when you AP, you go there. when you die, for a short period, yes, you go there. Now apparently the 2 dimensions are hand in hand, the only 'door' is how to consiously get there(when you dream, your not, thats why some feel almost real)


well, yes this is how most people perceive things I believe-different dimensions=different planes=different "reality" but all reality...it's the doors I speak of...if we can easily move through them, and do so inadvertantly in everyday dreaming-can they as easily pass through? Or through usually through our doors, or only through more powerful pulls like lucid dreaming or AP conscious OOBE's is my question-wondering if we havae any knowledge/experience of how that plays out, you know?


well, im guessing that they would be able to themselves also, but much easier. now that i think about it, yeah, they would and do pass through. I would say whenever you see some "ghost" or some "demon" in your everyday life, that they did pass through. i hope i answered the question correctly, if not tell me, lol



posted on Jan, 24 2006 @ 11:42 AM
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Has anyone had the experience of not being able to control your spirit 'body' while out of body? I simply got frustrated with the lack of control that I had and decided to stop practicing a few years ago.

I now have more control in my waking life, and feel up to giving the ole OOBE another try.

I read that there are a few good techniques floating around on the the board. Can someone please direct me to 'em? Thanks!



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