Try with moisted vegetables and fruits. it works really well.

Man this sounds really cool, I wish I could reach the astral plane and experience it. It must be the best experience, ever. Is it possible to travel beyond earth? Such as another planet or somewhere in space?

Yes....ANYWHERE................personally I want to get close to Satern, and SEE the rings up close.....but I know this is an adgenda I can only follow through on under my own astral steam..........you cant expect a babysitter through every aspect of existance.

I 've read that travel in the astral form can get you ANYWHERE!.... including the ability to travel through time.....................

I HIGHLY recomend you get the book FAR JOURNEYS by Robert Monroe.....but all his books are amazing and well worth the study. He is NOT the only person to write on this subject however......

LMAO about the moistened friut!! THATS new info to me ya nut bread!

Wow, get close to saturns rings? That is crazy? That would be so cool to do that! I wonder if you could go to heaven or something? Or you would have to be on another level to do that? Or maybe you cant do that period, lol. All this stuff is getting me really excited! I want to go to Egypt at night and visit the pyramids under the stars. That would be amazing! By the way rivergoddess I sent you a U2U, check it out.

hello i am new here, i would also like help. I have been reading about zen recently. When i was young i tried astral projections but i never suceeded, i recently downloaded a cd and tried asking my self if i was awake. I still havent come close. Could you answer me this can you still project if you have toxins in your body? E.G. caffiene,alcohol,nicotiene. I am trying to live a healthier lifestyle. Ive also read about the triangle method i can always hear a high pitched ring in my ears mostly my right one im just having trouble trying to imagine where my third eye was? Is it possible to damage it?

I've made it out side my body but got scared half to death by something that was in my room sime sort of creature which at first was confused (I can do empathy naturally) and then became hostile and i have not tried since any idea what it was. feel free to u2u me

are you kidding me, rivergoddess? you asked for it and received? and all you want to see are saturn's rings of clusters of ice? and what's this blurb of yours about your wanting to get back into a church? whats with the remorse and guilt? forgive me if I am being presumptuous... your method of communicating here seems rather... nevermind. no comment.

hey darage, have you had any u2u's yet or any form of contact? thus far I'm not buying this but would like to be convinced. im also quite... skeptic... because not many (close to none) of the 'veteran' oobe dudes on ATS have posted here. like bandit and worldwatcher.

Thank you Samara for your kind words of encouragement! I like your Avatar I collect mermaid stuff........

I am now in direct comunication with my generous guide, and they happen to have family in my town and have a trip scedualed in a few days. We have decided to meet in the FLESH wich I think is cool.....

Alnilam I am not kidding here, I asked and I did recieve, VERY amazing to me via the internet! as for my origonal goals of seeing the planets THAT was prior to this actual experiance...and I was just trying to answer questions others had posted on this thread.
I felt NO guilt or remorse, much closer to elation! My thoughts on 'Church' was that I aught maybe to be more worshipfull of the enormity of existance.....This experiance showed me OTHER relms I had only guessed at . Coming full face with the power of things that are not common, gave me a sense of awe.........so bite me

MANY pardons (NOT) that you dont care a whit for my 'feeble' attempts at comunication on this subject.... anybody who wants to can post on this thread its not up to me so why yammer at me about it? I am new to ATS (check out my join date) So how would I know anybody who was very practiced at this, espescially since it was my first time? Why else do you think I would ASK for help?
I have continued to post on this thread for the OTHERS who seam to have some interest in this experiance that I ASKED FOR on the internet AND it REALLY happend...............
I guess in the future I shall create my posts in honor of enlightening only you...............(NOT)

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by theRiverGoddess]

Originally posted by theRiverGoddess

I guess in the future I shall create my posts in honor of enlightening only you...............(NOT)

well put. I deserved that one what with my muted arrogance. I'll have to ask for your forgiveness as I made that post when I was not in the best of moods. I'll say this however, you were certainly inspirational to some of my posts following shortly after . Incidentally, such posts of mine turned my major frown upside down!

In an attempt to redeem my position, however, I would like to advise you to proceed with caution. Meeting up can be a dangerous thing and something I'd like to suggest is to conduct a bit of 'surveillance' shortly before the rendez-vous. You know, drive around the meeting place, see if you can ID who you are looking for and see if you find any suspicious cars nearby. This aside, I hope the person you are meeting up with does not have malicious attentions at heart (that means bad things).

Thanks for explaining your perspectives further, and whether or not I can ignore the ... uh... interesting attributes of this thread, I do find the information intriguing, nonetheless. Good luck in your travels and please... it's a big Universe out there! Think of more things outside of this solar system, for example?

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this post.I haven't done OBE in many years. I got interested when I read 2 books on it , one by Oliver Fox and the other one called "The Theory and Practice of Astral Projection by Robert Crookall, and some other author. The latter one I found very helpful as it tells you what foods and drinks to avoid also the different techniques and methods to use etc etc. After the third attempt I had success. Once I knew the technique in doing it it was easy after that. It's like learning to ride a bicycle once you get the knack of it it is no problem.
My Method.
1 The weather needs to be warm and sunny.
2 Find a quiet place. no distracting noises.
3 Lie on a comfortable bed, top of head facing north,feet south.
4 Relax the muscles of you body.
5 Adopt shallow rythmic breathing. being concious of it moving from within your solar plexus up through your chest,to your nostrils.Imagine the air to be an energy that is energising you all the way up to your head.
6 Imagine strongly that you are floating or seperating from your body.
Concentrate as much as you can without being overly anxious for success
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL SUCEED. iF THERE IS DOUBT THERE THEN YOU WONT.
DO NOT BE AFRAID BECAUSE FEAR IS ALSO A HINDERANCE.
It is very important to stay away from heavy foods and drinks. Eat only fruits and vegatables, small amounts of fish or chicken are OK. No red meats as these cause a heavy vibration within the body.
Try and not fall asleep.This can happen from being very relaxed.
When it happens you may hear a buzzing or fluttering in your ears. No need to worry it is normal.
If or when you do succeed you may find that your body is in a state of paralysis.This is normal also nothing to worry about Just relax and it will pass.
The astral plane is like a virtual world wonderful vivid colours, strange hollow type sounds.
The reason I stopped doing it was it made me feel disorientated or ungrounded. I felt it was not safe for me to drive a car in case I might suddenly leave my body.
This was a real fear for me.
Ihave said enough for now.
If anyone needs more info just ask.

WOW Taiog....GOOD INFORMATION ! thank you very much....and from one new person to another new person WELCOME! see if you can find someone to adopt you on the adopt a newbee thread...........personall information from the OLD TIMERS can be very usefull....

Once again WOW!! I am floored by your willingness to share this information...

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by theRiverGoddess]

Now.... I am wondering about the possibilitys of danger in OOBE........and am thinking I need to study up on this issue before I continue in my experiments.......(to wich I am having success btw so far so good!) and I am all happy about it.......but I dont want to be like the fool who walks off the cliff while busy smelling the flowers.
So please......
warnings of things to WATCH out for?
How does one go about PROTECTING oneself in this vulnrable state?
advise anybody?

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by theRiverGoddess]

~~~Thank you all~~~ for the many showing great interest in my experiance!
I am getting alot of u2u's asking me WHO is my guide ~(no its not DeltaChaos)~ and if I can help them hook up with this person.......or if I could come and give them a GOOD YANK.........but as you can see by this thread I am very new to this ~~ability~~....and am JUST learning myself. You need to ask THEM not me....
I will again state~~~ THIS PERSON IS KEEPING UP WITH THIS THREAD~~~and you could never guess who they are from the posts they have made...making NO claims to having any phychic abilitys whatsoever, so give up on trying to guess.
Your BEST chance of having them contact you....is to make a heartfelt plea, put your energy into your request.....let them SEE you from your post.. Allow your soul to be seen by this person via your request. Explain why you want this so much....and be respectfull......only in this manner might they decide to contact you. Tell them about yourself, and your true desires, along the line of why you believe you need help.....you get my jist here.

When I become more proficiant at this...I to will help someone else in the manner that I was helped...but THAT could be years away, so at this juncture I am not taking names and making a list.....sorry. I TRULY wish I COULD be more helpfull at this time, but alas I am ~NEW~ and just learning.......I am aware of just how blessed I am to have found this help over the internet, and I am wishing all who desire the same the best of luck in finding it for themselves.
Print out the above mentioned techniques....2 EXCELLANT ones were posted, and I am following the advise from them myself.....my guide said they can add no more than what these 2 people have posted.

[Edited on 7-5-2004 by theRiverGoddess]

Congrats on your wonderful experience RiverGoddess!! I would love to experience OBE and have tried and failed for awhile now, I just can't seem to make the split. As much as I would like help and would jump all over it if the opportunity came up, I do realize you have to help yourself before you can expect to be helped. I think in RiverGoddesses case, she sincerely had tried and given it her all and wanted that help so badly that when asked, she received. Once again, congrats on your experience RiverGoddess, it sounds wonderful and I can't WAIT for my first experience!

Hi RG!!

I thought it was high time I came on here and said I'm delighted for you too - what a thrill the OOBE must have been. I'm very envious!!

Please keep us posted about further developments, my adoptee!!

Damn, I just tried to astral project. Barely got any vibrations, not even close. Usually I got really intense vibrations, its funny because most the time when im not trying to astral project I end up getting really close. darn.

Ricta...sometimes the HARDER you try to make something happen, the farther you push it away from yourself.
I am guilty of trying TO HARD sometimes, and I teach best what I MOST need to learn......
Relax.......ask you higher realm guides to help you in your quest, and put your trust in them.

T Y V M Genya......I dont wanna call you Daddy but calling you BigBrother is DEFINATLY out of the question...I shall keep you posted, and I JUST had a thought........maybe I should try to OOBE to Mars and let ya know WHAT color it really is????
~~~~~ I have a new goal ~~~~~ Mars!

[Edited on 9-5-2004 by theRiverGoddess]

Congratulations on your OOBE! Have u had any other experiences like that since, your guide helped u? Have your own experiments been successful?

Originally posted by theRiverGoddess
(way better than giving birth)

i thought that was supposed to suck?? btw, thats awesome if u really did it. and id like to do it too!