Originally posted by picrat
reply to post by Recouper
what is the wind that does not blow? -recouper
what is still air or nothing?
I've finally read the entire thread. I'm still not sure about this question... picrat, try me again, perhaps from a slightly different angle.
I've got a little bit to share now.
Shortly after I first started reading this tread, I was reading it at work and a child said something right beside my left ear. I turned startled, but
nobody was there, just me in the office by myself.
A couple of weeks ago I was laying in bed, my body was asleep and my mind was quiet. I started trying to lift my head out of my body, none of my
mussels were doing anything, but the strain was immense. My heart was pounding (although I now know that was likely my heart chakra).
I ask for help from anyone who may be in the vicinity to get me out and then somebody was there, in the room. I could feel their presence, but I have
found out since then that the presence wasn't as strongly manifested as it could have been. After a while I gave up and started wondering about who
was there. Well, whoever they were, they suddenly seemed female very sexual, just a feeling. I wondered if I was just imagining a presence and went to
sleep. I was pretty tired from trying so hard.
About one week ago I was laying in bed getting ready to go to sleep and out of nowhere somebody grabbed my ankle and gave it good pull. It actually
felt like they had a grip on and were pulling my astral ankle, not my physical ankle. But it was definite and startling. It was only brief, the weird
thing is, I couldn't feel any sort of presence in the room before or after.
A few nights ago I was home at night (weekend) and on my way to bed thought I'd give OOBE another try. Well, as soon as I walked into my bedroom,
something was in there and it was a very strong presence (understatement). I've never felt anything like it in my life and I quickly decided I would
be staying in my physical skin that night.
I got into bed and started thinking "get out, I don't want anyone here, I want everyone to leave now" and just tried mentally communicating that
into the room. I tried to imagine a protective bubble of white light expanding out from my wife and I and instantly felt the presence stronger and it
was like the bubble was torn away and my imagination couldn't work anymore, I couldn't visualize anything. It was so cold, I could feel it coming
through the covers like the room had been turned into a bottle store chiller. I eventually went to sleep and the next morning, the room seemed
I'm not skilled with this sort of thing, only recently I've started to accept there's more to nature and reality than the senses can detect.
That's a log story I could write an essay on. The point is, this stuff that's been happening is external to me, hasn't been experienced by me
before and is spontaneous in the moment. By spontaneous I mean the things that happen are sort of sudden in their experience, I am convinced that my
imagination is not tricking me into believing these experiences are happening and that they are in fact actually happening. I couldn’t be easily
convinced of that, I’m a logical sort of person… so, here I am, convinced.
Today, I was in bed and started staring at the black behind my eyelids and after a while I saw a couple of images, things I had never seen before. I
went to sleep.
A few hours later a noise in the house woke me up (I sleep during the day). I could hear the roaring noise for the first time in my life and realised
it's very similar to the noise I hear constantly, except it was about 800% louder. I knew it wasn't just my perception as there was the odd
background noise from elsewhere in the house which was at normal volume.
I looked into the darkness behind my eyelids and saw a couple of images and succeeded in getting deeper into the 'state'. Then I heard that crackle
noise, as one poster said, like a jack plugging into an amp, except that atmospheric noise kept going. It's weird, but I just knew it was time and
started trying to lift my astral right hand. I could feel it, but it felt like it was glued to my physical hand. I couldn't get it to lift out and
the noise faded away. I opened my eyes and felt truly amazed.
The noises you hear, they are separate and independent from you. The roaring wind type noise... well, it's like something else separate from you is
controlling the volume. And that crackle type noise, you hear it and think that's not what you expected, it's a noise that is of itself.
I know now that others trying this will hear the same noises, as they are not individual perceptions, they are part of something that is real... it's
like finding new code to the matrix program and anyone who finds it, will find the same code and however they run it, it will run the same for all.
I'm only applying the analogy to the separation stage; I can't speak for what comes after that. Oh, but I dearly hope I soon will be able to.
Just editing to say that there have actually been quite a bit more things happening since I started reading this thread, but the above is the main
stuff and I think it's enough reading on its own.
[edit on 16/11/2009 by Recouper]