posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:29 AM
Dear River Goddess wow. I have a quesiton for you in this post
Wow, this is thread is amazing. 4 years 10 months long. I am up to page 20 so far, and will finish the rest. This is my first post on ATS (apart
from an anonymous one explaining that stainless steel is NOT made of 70% H)
This thread on OOBE/astral projection/astral travel appears to have attracted much interest from various people. The curiosity and positivity are
fantastic to see, however there are issues which need addressing:
1. The issue of Belief
2. The issue of scientific validity
3. The issue of potential harm
4. The issue of easy projection
1- Whilst being truthful, I am aware all my statements are my beliefs. The chances that EVERYTHING I say is correct are minimal. Beliefs change,
Truth does not. How then can one determine what is true, especially when contradictions arise? - By using your heart/intuition, being aware, and
2- I have seen the question posed "Can you PROVE to me scientifically that astral projection does in fact happen? / Can you show me scientific
evidence?" I cannot scientifically prove to you that people astral project, however, you cannot scientifically prove to me that people dream. Let
me pose a question to you though; 200 years ago, could ANYONE have shown scientific evidence that dreams occurred? Yet without any scientific
evidence whatsoever, everyone believed they happened. Why? because they happened to them. People believe in astral projecting/OBE 1.because it has
happened to them or 2. they know the alternative(SO many people lying with NO BENEFIT to themselves) is ridiculous. Devices have since been made that
measure the EFFECTS of dreaming eg. increased electrical current in certain parts of the brain. Within another 200 years, devices may be made that
measure the effects of OBE or can even record the event.
3- There have been posts by people wondering if Astral Projecting will do them harm, or if it can kill them. From what I have read the ACT of astral
projecting will not cause any harm. Train, and do it. Once you have achieved one, come back to your body, STOP Astral Projecting and start reading
(If you haven't already) and getting as big a knowledge base about the astral realm and the entities that you can. Dear River Goddess, could you
please ask your Yanker about this book: Techniques of Astral Combat, G. Travels. Is he still reading this thread? This book will provide an
explanation for some of the things that have happened to you and other people. Reading it was like receiving some hard truth that makes you squirm.
If indeed it IS true. I would like to know what the Yanker thinks?
... The question is can the entities encountered in the astral do you harm? IMO yes. Should this stop you? No. Should you find out as much as you
can after (or before) you do you first projection? YES.
4- Would you like to have an easy projection, with very little effort involved? The best things in life are free... free of a price tag, but not free
of hard work. This 4th issue I have is to clarify one thing. If you are lazy about projecting it is not going to happen. Have you REALLY put in
100% effort over many years? Stop asking for an easy way("can I be yanked out too?") to astrally project. So far I have put in 33% effort, a
distinct lack of dedication, and have been duly rewarded; I have got to the vibrating state, gotten exited by it, and woken myself right up.
In any case this thread has rekindled my interest, inflamed it in fact, the last few days I have been saturating myself with information on it. I am
going to work hard this time. I am going to talk about my experiences with you. I am going to astral project. - Ink