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Indirect evidence that God is behind the NWO

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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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God, if he existed... I'm not saying he does or doesn't. It's beside the point.

Would God back the NWO? Never mind the violence that will occur to the populations which try to rebel against the all powerful force that will strike down upon the Earth like the wrath of God.

See, the violence isn't even the point. God backed the Americans when they slaughtered Indians though something called "Manifest Destiny". I mean, God backs a lot of people and a lot of ideas.. He backs the Jihad and the death of the Infidels. He also backs the Jews as the chosen people. Hitler said he was backed by God as well. He backed the Crusades, the burning of witches, the burning of heretics, and he also backed the death of his son. He knew he could come back from the dead though, so that doesn't count. Whatever. It really doesn't matter.

It's like all the people who say they see ghosts, or aliens. They can't be wrong. There is just too much evidence for these things. Too much evidence that violence and tragedy is backed by God according to all these people. Bush said God told him to invade Iraq too.

Most people who prayer are at least partially backed by God.

I'm SURE Obama has or is going to mention God for one thing or another that he does.

... but how much violence will it hold?

I'm talking about God backing violence from all sides. There doesn't appear to be a linear path for all this violence and destruction. The path instead is aimed inward. This is a major point because the violence from the NWO will come from all sides and it will (is!) effect all countries. As we advance into the future, the violent acts that God is said to back all have one thing in common: the amount of destruction, violence, and death grows.

There is violence involved in all of that. God is violent by nature, even flooding the Earth and killing everyone. So it's no surprise that he backs these violent acts.

So, since God backs violence from all sides, then he must be backing violence which is aimed toward the center... toward a central point. Toward one thing.

That center is the rise of the NWO - the one world government... or HEAVEN if you will. God is backing all of this violence until we have the ULTIMATE VIOLENCE here on Earth. It's the ULTIMATE VIOLENCE because it will be the last atrocity to happen On Earth. It's..

THE APOCALYPSE.

The violence will be HORRIBLE and TRAGIC, but out of the CHAOS will come ORDER - just how it has ALWAYS been. Heaven will arise on Earth. As above, so below, as Jesus said: Heaven is all around you, only you do not see it.

Do not fear my friends, for God backs the violence to change the world, once again and he always has.

Once the planet is united from the inward violence there will be only one direction to go, and that direction is outward.

We will be backed by God in our mission to conquer other planets and other races.

This is our legacy as creations of God, backed by God at all times.

What more proof of the violent NWO do you need?




posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by NWOhereNOW
God, if he existed... I'm not saying he does or doesn't. It's beside the point.

Would God back the NWO?


Heh. Good question. I don't pretend to know the mind of any being, let alone one that, presuming (S)He exists, is as ineffable as the descriptions of "God."

I would presume that it would depend on what siad God values. And there's the rub, eh? What does God Value?

From my perspective, being one who believes that We are God, in that Consciousness creates, co-creates this Universe, basing my opinion on quantum mechanics.

And so, since God has, as a rule, a desire for self preservation, stemming from valuing the conscious experience, I am going to say God would rather the people strip the NWO of its present power.

As a rule, though some Conscious Individuals of Sentience would rather things go as you describe, the vast sea of Conscious sparks would rather not go there.

Your Universe may seem to vary..



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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Great question! From the headline, I was all set to talk about how it is more likely the NWO invented God. But, after reading your entire post, it is much more interesting. It is still more likely all the events you mentioned invoked the name of God for their own purposes. It is certainly not possible that the same god could back Manifest Destiny, and Jihad kill the infidels at the same time?!? It would be easier to make the Jihad kill the Indians and take out the middle man Christians!

I think God doesn't back any of our petty wars, crimes, or evils. If there is truly one god, it is a sad one watching it's creation self-destruct. Have you ever not been able to save a plant, although you care for it meticulously! Or a gold fish, an old dog, etc.? Ever play SIMS?

It must be an unrewarding and tedious job playing God.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 12:31 PM
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There is sound evidence to show those atrocities you mentioned in the OP are actually backed up NOT BY GOD, but by his opposer SATAN the Devil.

Here is a fact most people don't understand:

GOD WILL SET UP A NEW WORLD ORDER.

What is currently happening now, is Satan trying to set up his own NWO, you see... Satan has always been God's devious copycat . He covets what what belongs to God and what God WILL DO in the near future.

Whether you believe in Bible prophecy or not, nobody can stop what is coming.

PLEASE WATCH THIS

PEACE TO ALL!

[edit on 3-6-2009 by holywar]

[edit on 3-6-2009 by holywar]



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Well God is the NWO because the GOD from all the books ex... bible , koran....Are another species of humanoid aliens...

When you think of it like that, EVERYTHING makes sense......

When you think of it as some invisible man who advocates death and peace and love at the same time.......That is when it makes no sense.


It's pretty obvious people.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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as Jesus said: Heaven is all around you, only you do not see it.


Jesus was trying to explain in simple terms (to a 1st century crowd) one of two things or both things. He was trying to make you realize your experience in life can be heaven with your family and friends with you and the beauty of Earth, and or that he meant literally heaven is all around us but it's another dimension so no we cannot see it.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
Well God is the NWO because the GOD from all the books ex... bible , koran....Are another species of humanoid aliens...

When you think of it like that, EVERYTHING makes sense......


And how!!! Once I read The Terra Papers, the whole crazy, illogical Universe made phenomenal sense.


When you think of it as some invisible man who advocates death and peace and love at the same time.......That is when it makes no sense.


Agreed! Star for you!



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 02:28 PM
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God will not according to the bible, interfere with our world untill the day of reckoning and judgement. It is also said in the bible that he gave us our own conscious thought and will, allowing us to do what we want to.
And when the time comes he will jufge us apon the good and evil that we have done in this world.
cheers and happy thoughts be with you all!



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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Why does everyone think the Bible is Hogwash. Most of the scientists that made all those breakthrough discoveries that led us away from a flat-Earth were devout followers of Christ.

God is allowing the NWO to happen but not the CAUSE of it. In fact the cause of it is Satan. It's so funny that people believe that the PTB wrote every religious text, but TPTB believe in the opposing force from that same text.

???

Not to mention the Bible predicted in the last days that people would ignore it for their own worldly desires and simply just ignore it.

The Bible predicted the New World Order before anything. In fact there have been a few attempts. Look at Nazi Germany. Look at it as a "schematic" for the things that are coming. Of course that was every day life with World War. The End of Times is a little more than average Joe life. Well not a little it will be like we're living out a sci fi movie with religious connotations but it will be real.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 09:37 AM
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Ahhhh but who's playing who? does the church control the eliteists or do the eliteists control the church?

Nazi Germany: A creation of the Vatican & Jesuits

Vatican plays down Pope's Hitler youth past

The real face of the European Union

It would seem that the church IS involved in sinister plots of the elite? or is the elite required to fulfill the biblical prophecies as directed by the church? Either way this is why things seem to play out to the book...either to distract you or to control you...Choose your fate.

[edit on 4-6-2009 by Ellirium113]



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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That sucks for the Church. However a lot of us know that the churches are corrupt. I will only attend a church or rather "meeting place" of those without denomination. So the Vatican might be infiltrated by Illuminati so? That's the Vatican. They're the ones doing things contradictory to their purpose.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Either way this is why things seem to play out to the book...


Actually things play out to the book because Jesus hasn't made one prediction that was not fulfilled. The Bible is a book of prophecy throughout. We're witnessing what many people ages ago warned would happen. The only conspiracy is the co-operation of TPTB to hide the real truth. The truth of the Bible. The New World Order was predicted by the Book of Revelation long ago. Most people just don't like the idea of a loving God who turns his anger away as long as possible before it must be done. What would a father be if he did not punish his child?



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:21 PM
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Most people just don't like the idea of a loving God who turns his anger away as long as possible before it must be done. What would a father be if he did not punish his child?


Loving GOD? Does a loving god let children live in squallor in garbage dumps and allow millions to be starved? you bet he does...Does he allow corruption & sin in his churches? sure seems so, HOW IS THIS GOD LOVING? Because he told you so? I got to call BS on this one.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 10:41 PM
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Most folks like to praise God when things are good in their lives, and also wanna blame him when things are rotten! God is no more behind the nwo than I am, but he is allowing it to happen! He's doing this to try and continue to allow the curse of "freewill" make us turn back to him!

God instilled freewill when adam and eve sinned, and we are paying this price yet today! God has even allowed medians and sorcerers to intervene and make great kings make decisions that were turned more to what God wanted. These examples can be found in the book of leviticus.


God himself says that satan is the God of this earth, and is also the "prince" of the air! The only nwo God is responsible for will be the one that rules the earth when Jesus returns for his bride.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by NWOhereNOW
God, if he existed... I'm not saying he does or doesn't. It's beside the point.

Would God back the NWO? Never mind the violence that will occur to the populations which try to rebel against the all powerful force that will strike down upon the Earth like the wrath of God.


why does everyone have to maintain this anthropomorphic "individualistic" "external" concept of god?

its the freaking year two thousand and NINE.... we've advanced on so many fronts.. yet this concept has remained as everybody's invisible friend in the sky...

even athiests.. in their argument against christians or whomever....
attest that that's the idea or "person' they're arguing against or for..

it's barbaric and ridiculous.


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posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by NWOhereNOW
God, if he existed... I'm not saying he does or doesn't. It's beside the point.

Would God back the NWO? Never mind the violence that will occur to the populations which try to rebel against the all powerful force that will strike down upon the Earth like the wrath of God.


why does everyone have to maintain this anthropomorphic "individualistic" "external" concept of god?

its the freaking year two thousand and NINE.... we've advanced on so many fronts.. yet this concept has remained as everybody's invisible friend in the sky...

even athiests.. in their argument against christians or whomever....
attest that that's the idea or "person' they're arguing against or for..

it's barbaric and ridiculous.
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It's almost as bad as the concept of a self. The ever changing continua of form, sensation, perception, thoughts, desires, emotions, etc... derived from interaction between each and the outside environment which we refer to as "I".



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by NWOhereNOW

Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by NWOhereNOW



It's almost as bad as the concept of a self. The ever changing continua of form, sensation, perception, thoughts, desires, emotions, etc... derived from interaction between each and the outside environment which we refer to as "I".



I'm sorry man. I don't understand what you are saying here. If it is not too much trouble could you elaborate so I could grasp what you mean? Thanks and I think that avatar is incredibly cool.......



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by jackflap

I'm sorry man. I don't understand what you are saying here. If it is not too much trouble could you elaborate so I could grasp what you mean? Thanks and I think that avatar is incredibly cool.......


I'm speaking of that which depends on nothing else. Your thoughts depend on many things, and so do your emotions. Your emotions, thoughts, feelings, perceptions ebb and flow like ocean waves reacting to the wind, sun, and land. Separate these components, and who is it that exists? There is nothing that exists, but only change, and becoming. We are merely process, not permanent. We are as rivers which flow between mountains - not a single drop exists in the same place from moment to moment: Where the river is, truth is not; where truth is, the river is not.

If you are interested in learning more, may I point you to study the basic concepts laid out in Zen and/or Buddhism.

Tomorrow is not real.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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"Tomorrow is not real."

If tomorrow is not real, we'd all be stuck in today's finite world, for tomorrow is yesterday's history recorded in the present tense, which makes the future today's realisms!

Without tomorrow, our physical bodies could not grow! I haven't seen many 5' 9', 175 lb babies lately, have you?

The only thing not real here is your idea of perception, which is clouded by your new age balogna called "zen", which has already been proven to have no basis or foundational realism at all. Buddhism on the other hand is a mindset that's self-inflicted to allow one to reach that higher level of self-being, better known as "meditation".

There is only one true master, and buddha isn't it!



posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 12:23 AM
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I am finding it hard to believe in GOD,
I pray for him to cure cancer in my mom and he don't listen,
which totally contradicts what he states in the bible.
Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:
Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds



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