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All of you are just Human

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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:40 PM
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Well then you should be fine because nobody has proven that any of us have infinite consciousness. So I say, JESUS H CHRIST, let's label away.




posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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Wow...that little thread about people who may actually be aliens really threatened your ego didn't it?

I can't believe you took it to this degree.

As far as I can tell, we're living inside of infinity, therefore infinite possibilities are plausible.

Whether you're from Nibiru, Sirius, Oaklahoma, or the molten crust of the earth...as long as you're here typing on this thread, you're pretty much stuck in human form. On that point, I will agree. Don't take other people's fantasies so seriously though. You never know...they may be right and you could be the one who is incorrect. Just entertain that idea a little.

This comment goes to the original poster.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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That is not for me to determine. But I would recommend to any of my friends that thought they were alien to see a professional just to be safe. Wouldnt you? I have said it before and I will say it again. If one of my friends thought they were an alien, or could talk to aliens without proof then I would not only drive them to the doctor, I would pay the bill.

Friends dont let friends think they are alien.


[edit on 6/2/2009 by justsomeboreddude]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Nice one M.

I personally have the opinion, that we are all from everywhere, have always been, and will always be. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Starstuff from eons of time in an ever-changing soup. Just not "conscious" all of that time or all of those places.

Your thread AND the other one could be right.

Nice ball of dirt we got here......but just visiting thanks.

All so "big" innit?



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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Well I'm glad you asked.
Since "humans" were proven to have built the first airplane about a hundred years ago and thus discovered flight, I was wondering,since you are one of them, if you could build us one of these flying machines and take several photos/videos charting your progress.That would be a start to proving that you are indeed human.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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Hey Jesus H. Christ, Thanks for the thanks!

Labelling is important in a scientific sense otherwise we'd be stuck before we started. With regards to a universal consciousness - I doubt we'll ever get get behind that mystery ever, and that in itself redeems existence for me.

What's it all about? - Chances are we'll never know.

So when labelling a 'soul' as having characteristics of a particular species or anything else for that matter I have to ask how is that characteristic defined and valued. I think that's the human part of us all, regardless of magical aliens.


Originally posted by UFOtheories
Wow...that little thread about people who may actually be aliens really threatened your ego didn't it?

I can't believe you took it to this degree...

...Just entertain that idea a little.



Hey UFOtheories. I think it's my id more than my ego that feels threatened by nonsensical theories being propogated. I think starting a thread looking for answers is a fine degree to take it to -especially when the other thread is little more than an enrolment bank for people who may benefit from talking to a councillor or similar (in my opinion).

I'm all for entertaining - but it was 17 pages in prior to me starting this thread and showed no signs of denying ignorance. I'd liken the 'possibility' to that of a national socialist party of central Europe circa 1938.

-m0r



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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i never said i felt alien ,neither did my mom or mum or my sister!

i mean we should all feel special because we are, we are all here for a reason>>

don't know what that reason is yet, but i'm enjoying the journey

imho



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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I will gladly take you up on that as long as you agree to provide me the materials I need to build a plane. If you dont have the funds, then I can film myself making a grilled cheese sandwich and soup since humans also invented that. Would that suffice?

Are you really trying to insinuate that the Wright Brothers were in fact aliens?


[edit on 6/2/2009 by justsomeboreddude]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by m0r1arty
I'm hoping people can express their thoughts upon why some people need to be more than they are.


I hope you won't mind my participation. My viewpoint may be different than yours, but I respect the effort you put forth here which is neither mocking nor derisive. And in the interests of understanding, perhaps my participation can be somewhat valuable.

To answer quite simply: To be different. Much like twins raised in the same household will often develop noticeable differences while twins raised in different households display what could best be termed to me as stunning similarities.

So to ask why is essentially asking why they are acting human. To be honest, I see conformity and uniformity to be decidedly inhuman qualities, which is why I believe such behavior needs to be trained.

To go a step further though, I would ask how you know they aren't precisely what they claim? I'm not asking you to believe in so-called super powers just to nullify the possibility unequivocally.

Here's my perspective. I've experienced a great deal of strange things in my life. I know many others have too. I also know many don't talk about it for one simple reason. These experiences are not quantifiable by our current systems of measurement or communication. My apologies if it sounds like a cop-out, but it is true to me.

The end result is generally ridicule on the part of those who have not shared the experiences.

ATS is a place which allows those with these experiences to communicate with the only people who can actually understand in those who share similar experiences. That's why I came here. But also to find alternatives.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Well I agree there is nothing wrong with feeling special. That is healthy and called self esteem, until you start thinking you are special because you are from out of this world.


[edit on 6/2/2009 by justsomeboreddude]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Every chance I have given you to prove that you are human you have used to throw the ball back in my court. If you cannot prove that you are human then just say so. Your attempts at assigning me any burdon are going to fail every time. I ask you again to provide proof that you are human,without demanding something from me in return. Either prove it or admit that you can't. One or the other.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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Moriatry,
Thank you for this.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
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I think it is pathetic how the people in this thread and "the other thread" cling to these ridiculous labels. "human" "alien" "lightworkers" "crystaline" "starseeds" "starchildren" etc.

I'm a this, I'm a that. If there is anything that you all have in common and you insist on using labels to indentify yourselves can we all agree that we are infinite consciousness having the illusion of a a finite experience? or is that to much to wrap your head around?


Still a label, man, albeit a longer one.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Ok I just ask a simple request. Just find something I can do to prove I am human that doesnt cost a small fortune. As I am sure you can understand, my family would not appreciate starving to death because I spent all of our money on plane parts just to prove a point to someone on a discussion board. So please give me a realistic way to prove this to you. It would be like me asking you to build an antigravity craft to prove you are alien. The parts just arent that cheap. So would it be a fair request?



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Oohhh I seee what you did therrre!



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:07 PM
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That would be why I said "if you insist on using labels".
I agreed by implication that it is a label but at least one with a little more depth.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by TravelerintheDark
I hope you won't mind my participation. My viewpoint may be different than yours, but I respect the effort you put forth here which is neither mocking nor derisive. And in the interests of understanding, perhaps my participation can be somewhat valuable.


You are always welcome. It's through dialogue that most things are reasoned out and I appreciate the reasonable way you explained your personal experiences. I understand how similarities can be found within sets of people, together and apart. There are physical characteristics, mental abilities and hereditary conditions which bind all members of families together and identifiable by those who know how to find them.

My reasoning against the alien souls part is due to the unquantifiable element of soul, never mind it's place of origin and how that can be used to potentially abuse those who believe in such things (there are demographics available which illustrate who these people are mostly).

So it seemed to me more apt to provide a place to show how human we all are.


Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
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Either prove it or admit that you can't. One or the other.


He's got a point justsomeboreddude - it's called the Turin test. Although trying to prove it on an actual human is pretty fresh of him.

-m0r



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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This thread is mocking the "aliens thread", please continue the discussion there as to why you feel that those people are not aliens and are human.

Competing threads not allowed.

Thanks

*Thread Closed.



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