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Originally posted by Ambient Sound
...As has been pointed out, many people who have come to our country have had to assimilate and adopt new ways or modify old ones. In most cases the exchange has been two-way to an extent as our culture absorbs features of the newer culture to our benefit. However, for a culture (and it's people) to adapt, there has to be that flexibility.
I don't think Islam is prepared to be that flexible and this nessessity for compromise will used as an excuse by their clergy for more hate and ultimately more violence, both abroad and here in the US. That is my opinion though. I hope that I'm wrong.
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Today, that appears to not be the case, esp. with (but not limited to) the Arab populations. By making an issue of this call to prayer, they are antagonizing people and isolating themselves further. I hope that is not their intent.
It just seems they could figure out when to pray, like by looking at their watch???
Originally posted by glee
It's a free country. Or should be. If they aren't violating noise ordinances, I say let them go at it. It might start a five-times-a-day religious free-for-all. I can hear the Baptist, Muslim, Catholic, Jewish, Hindu, Atheist, you name it calls for prayer (or nonprayer) all competing for the same airtime.
Talk about noise pollution. Then they'd all get banned and things would go back to the way they've been, minus the church bells. Small loss for most communities now-a-days.
And here is the call, to be repeated 5x per day, in Arabic:
"English translation of the call to worship:
"God is great" (four times).
"I testify there is no other God but God (twice)."
"Come and pray" (twice).
"Come and flourish" (twice).
"God is great" (twice).
"There is no God but God" (once).
Translation by Masud Khan, secretary of al-Islah Islamic Center, Hamtramck"
Originally posted by glee
That is a good link.
That doesn't mean that all Muslims have the same agenda. I like your post, because it allows us to begin to talk about specific Islamic organizations, and specific Muslims. Some Muslims have conspired and acted against US law and interests. They need to be tried and disciplined appropriately.
But all we see in the news are the high-profile Muslims, the ones who are actively seeking to impose their religious beliefs on others. The rest don't make the news.
Just because they don't speak up, it doesn't mean they aren't there. Non-Muslims tend to see Islam as a monolithic religion. It is far from that. Many Muslims I know wanted to come to America from a Muslim nation so they could have religious freedom. They want the government to remain secular. They and their co-religionists have suffered persecution at the hands of the dominant Muslim sect in their home countries. They don't want it to happen again.