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Originally posted by Mr Green
Ok what about the great realm (4th and above) we all know these dimensions are highly manipulative. I ask in all honesty how do any of you know your not just being totally astrally manipulated? Its happened to us all right, so what makes you so sure your not being manipulated by the astral realms?
This is an honest question, I do not joke. The astral realm is no joke. It is no joke in the slightest. Remember they DONT want you to ascend. Whatever you see or feel you must discern against and KNOW it is from your higher self and NOT from an astral realm. Do not forget how manipulative these realms can be.
[edit on 17-7-2009 by Mr Green]
Originally posted by guidanceofthe third kind
reply to post by Mr Green
for me, it is more communication than manipulation. sure they could but what would that solve. i am not even out of college yet and there is no way i will hold influence over anything for atleast 7-14 years. that would be a waste of consciousness to manipulate me yet.
The Great zen master Rinzai stated, in order to take his students attention away from time, would often raise his finger and slowly ask
" What , at this moment, is lacking?" a powerful question that does not require an answer on the level of the mind. It is designed to take your attention deeply into the Now.
A similar question in the Zen tradition is this:
" If not now, when?"
Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Thank you all for your great contributions to this thread. They help the awakening process.
Aliens? Humans? Pleiedians? Arcturans? Zen Buddhists? What is the difference?
Originally posted by redwoodjedi
Just food for thought concerning this thread. It appears to smack quite a bit of duality although I have read a lot of "we are all one" type language I'm not sure that that is understood. There is still a huge over all feeling of polarity and a general "us" and "them" gross view.
My being a practitioner of Zen Buddhism for about 18 years on the cushion has led me to "see" otherwise. The phenomena of which you speak is simply that; phenomena. Like all things that have a beginning, this too shall pass with it's own unforeseen end. To make my point even more succinct I will share with you the Buddhist version of Occam's Razor. I will share with you the four laws as discovered by the Buddha Siddartha Gautam but not invented or created by him. These laws thus far are infallible and have yet to be disproven by ANY known mode of thought up to and including empirical science. These four laws or facts are as follows:
1) All compounded things are impermanent.
2) All emotions are pain.
3) All things have no inherent existence.
4) Nirvana (enlightenment) is beyond concepts.
So you see, all of this is transient and meaningless. Strip it all away you still exist as the Witness, the Observer, the Great Uncreate. The One Witness uses the eyes of all sentient creation as windows seeing all rise and fall in It's awareness forever and ever and forever again. Everything you are looking at is very simply you looking at it! What a silly game you've created. This game has only two rules:
1) Forget Who You really are (pure consciousness, God, Allah, Wakan Tanka, Vergessen, Nirohd, etc...)
2) Believe in another...
Why did you invent this game? You were inexorably and deeply aware of being...alone.
Aliens? Humans? Pleiedians? Arcturans? What is the difference? It all will pass back into time and space both of which you exist prior to. You simply are. Less participation in the creation you believed into existence and more observing it with reasonable detachment will show you this. There is nothing to know. Nothing to become. Nothing to be without or within.
= ) Namaste
One of the basic beliefs of Buddhism is the conviction that happiness and good fortune are attainable to all, regardless of age, race or background. Buddhists believe that all negative mental states or "delusions" as they are referred to, can be overcome through the practice of meditation.
Buddhists believe that true peace, wisdom and personal freedom can be achieved by all of humankind.
Originally posted by redwoodjedi
... I guess I will have to elucidate a bit more on my previous post in order to bring a little more clarity as to what I have stated ...