Teens Rampage in Philadelphia

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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 01:19 PM
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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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i'd say... there are a few places in the united states, regions where... people are Genuinely multicultural.

NYC would be one of those places, obviously what you say about Atlanta there are parts as well...

Where Integration happened NATURALLY, not based on classroom rules, media influence or trends...

There is no "natural" or better said "REAL" to why people stereo type, follow trends or believe or create reality around them...

Nationally, even through western civilization as a whole...

there is a stereotype... a pattern where, White Men and Asian Women and black Men and White Women are.... NUMERICALLY 10-1 the interracial trend, mix, what have you...

Yet I know what you say is true...

In places, NYC, Berkley, surely Atlanta... I have no reason to doubt you...

these numbers... go haywire, don't nearly so much apply


I would suggest... that, people in these places mixed together naturally, integration began sooner, people have higher educations.... many factors...

but I would offer that... for much of the USA surely, the racial getting to know each other factor is contrived... NEW, pushed by the media, people have less education...

In other words...

there are parts of the world, of America, where some of us really don't even think about race, they got to know each other, don't live nearly so much AS stereo types (as most of us seem to do) or by stereo typing

This is just a suggestion... a hypothesis

but certainly, there are locations where the body of people are of a higher consciousness and people have lived together and gotten to know each other longer

what I see, from the 90's on... is the rest of America, the bulk of America being introduced to one another... via the media, via classroom education, via terrible music stereo types... etc, etc

so the trends are... what they have been given... programmed to think and believe...

Are black guys physically superior?

Or across much of America have they been programmed to BELIEVE this? and naturally live and make certain things happen?

Are white girls more attractive than black girls?

It depends how you think and SEE the world...

But... even those of us who, KNOW BETTER, as I do, have elements of the programming that's been inflicted on us, particularly the last 20 years.

I would say... still those programs are allot weaker, in someone like me.... obviously many people in Atlanta... who were thrown in together to mix together naturally


I talked allot about fighting between young males... when they started integration in NYC, busing etc, when I was 8, there were no rules, there were no mandates...

there were 3 channels on TV ROFL

so we fought....and then made friends...

Somehow, as crazy as it may sound... that was better than the govt and media mandating, passing laws... portraying things certain... artificial ways...

and yeah... we actually lived together and go to know each other...

where as now we have to follow rules... artificial rules

don't say this word... don't say that word...




Honestly... I find the interference, simply, creates more stereotypes and racism than in the begging, 60's 70's 80's

Put 4 people in a room together they will 99% of the time get to know each other and work it out

If, you showed on the News today... the way Back kids and white kids got to know each other in Bklyn in 1978-1988

people would be HORRIFIED lol

but I have to maintain... be fighting involved or not... (I was a rambunctious kid, not ALL kids choose that route lol)

I actually grew up getting to know Black people that way... confronted things head on, was allowed to fight with them, played with them...

LOL... ever see a white Jewish kid play double dutch and do it well? Hows that for breaking stereotypes lol!!!!

This way... PC is cold and unnatural and stereotyped...

leads to TRENDS in race

When people actually Live and breathe together not interfered with in their personally lives or are around people who have had that benefit all the bs i'm talking about above just.... goes away, doesn't exist, it's just people

the people i'm talking about...the numbers, they know each other from porno, tv sitcoms and music videos...and even from at work, following a rigid set of rules... it creates very weird behaviors, false beliefs...

and this is how America operates, how the media operates.... marketing TRENDS and they are played upon...

I'd say the things i said above are TRUE

Not because there is reality to them... but simply because the trends are exploited and the BULK of people follow them...

Stereotype... themselves










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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
Even black americans hate black americans. In America, if you're a black american, you can pretty much forget about it. It's a life of hell because of the color of your skin.


I would need to disagree. It’s all about how you live your life. If you live a life of hatred than a life of hell is what you get. One of America's problems is that much of the young black community lives a life of hatred for everyone around them, and yes even themselves.

The color of their skin is the excuse for that hatred, and not so much the cause. How does one black person join the military and work their way up the ranks to be respected and befriended by everyone they come in contact with and another black person ends up living a life of hatred with both coming from the same environment and with the same skin color?

Everyone born is born with true disadvantages of some kind, but then many develop perceived disadvantages that also become true disadvantages because they and the social network they live in feeds into those perceptions to make them real.

When I see a black male that has lived his life in a predominantly black neighborhood and has attended a predominantly black, or minority school their whole life, and then leads a life of hatred that has basically caused them to fail in every aspect of their life, and it is all based on their skin color, I need to ask in the year 2009, where did that hatred come from?

This extreme hatred we see today was not present in the 60s and before, back when blacks actually would have had a good reason for this type of hatred. What we see today though is a manifestation of the society they have created around themselves, and choose to live in, but on the other hand, the many blacks that do not/did not choose this type of life style are strong and successful members of mainstream society with their skin color being moot.



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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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LOL your post was just deleted. But I read it before it was.

Yes I was apparently. He freaked out. And for the record i so did NOT (lol) enjoy it.

And Mopus, no it is NOT an example of multi-cultural integration. Different bars, different churches, tension. I am from Cali (which is mostly integrated) and the tension here is thick. Yes, even my Cali relatives have commented on it. There is a lot of racial tension. Truly.


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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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posted on Jun, 6 2009 @ 02:37 PM
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I thought this has been discussed to death. What they did was wrong and most likely not race related as much as it was a bunch of urban youths going on a warpath.


And as far as the moderators are concerned.....


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posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by OKCBtard
reply to I thought this has been discussed to death. What they did was wrong and most likely not race related as much as it was a bunch of urban youths going on a warpath.


And as far as the moderators are concerned.....



First of all, the one store employee that was mentioned in a news article was obviously hispanic (Jesus Hernandez or something like that).

Secondly, the point is if this HAD been a group of white teens, dozens and dozens of them, that met up on a social network for white people, and then attacked and beat up a random black couple that was stopped at a traffic light it WOULD HAVE MADE THE NEWS!!! Especially if the small riots had happened TWO weekends in a row! The media would be all OVER IT and the victims would be giving statements on the national news telling of their horrifying experience at the hands of white teens. This story apparently did NOT even make the local Philly news! Hit google and you will see that people that live IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD heard nothing about it! Media blackout (no pun intended).

Whether or not you believe it is race related, the media chooses to cover SOME stories that may have racial overtones and not others. THAT is the point.

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posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 02:06 PM
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The problems I see is that so many are willing to make excuses for this type of behavior, instead of speaking out against it. Overlooking this criminal activity is bad for the kids, because they fail to associate consequences with their actions.

Considering that this has happened twice now, it is clear these kids think they can get buy with this, and will do it again, and most likely this will spread. This will only lead to more problems for these kids later on if they aren't held responsible for their actions now.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:32 AM
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See : John carpenter's They Live! In one scene there's talk of extreme street violence. Over all the movie kind of speaks to the present day. Creepy. I wonder what the root cause of all of this is though.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:14 PM
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South Philly was traditionally a white part of the city mostly Irish and Italianbut over the years thats changed. I wouldn't be surprised if increased racial tension lead to this .



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by blueorder
use of that networking site automatically denotes racist behaviour as it is a social networking site specifically for one race.


rac⋅ism  [rey-siz-uhm]
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Where I Disagree:
Through out the years I have watched people mistake stereotyping for racism. I have done so with a loose tongue and irritable response to ignorance. This however is the first time where I cannot simply invalidate your response by explaining the [apparently] subtle difference between the two because it isn't a simple case of semantics.

However! I cannot indulge the thought that Ourspace was created through racism. I think it's possibly self-segregating, but we create clubs in high schools and colleges to find people we can relate to. Why is it so outrageous that people would create an online website to find people to identify with, despite the apparent race factor? I went ahead and created an ourspace account and the website was an over simplified version of the early days of myspace. The website made only one reference to the fact that it was black-american* oriented at the very end of the welcome message and was otherwise reasonably ignorant to race or racial matters. It's just a place where a bunch of kids and adults hang out, and it just happens that they're all black. Target marketing. What can you do?

It's not the websites fault, nor the well-intentioned owner/creator. It's not a race's fault and the website is not a racist statement.

These teens were not targeting white people, the mob was targeting citizens. Everyone who would encounter such a mob would be a victim if they did not join it. That's how mobs work. Regardless of race.

Where I agree:
It's stupid, angry hormonal teens and politicians and police aren't treating the situation for what it is. A bunch of stupid angry hormonal teens who need a good slap of cold steel on the wrist and itchy detention uniforms snugly embracing their flesh. The whole lot of the rioters need to be thrown in a Juvenile Corrections Facility or Prison [for the older ones]. They aren't displaying free speech and they aren't protected by the constitution. In fact they are infringing on the every-day American's inalienable rights.

I suppose I've said enough.

*Completely off topic side note, read at your own discretion:
To call a black-american african american is like calling a white-american european-american. It's ridiculous.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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You seem to be focused on the one white couple these teenagers assulted. To me you want this to be a racially motivated thing. This was teenagers being stupid nothing more. What you have conveniently left out is that the property that they destroyed belonged to blacks, that they also assulted other people who were black.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by jmotley
You seem to be focused on the one white couple these teenagers assulted. To me you want this to be a racially motivated thing. This was teenagers being stupid nothing more. What you have conveniently left out is that the property that they destroyed belonged to blacks, that they also assulted other people who were black.


They did? Please post links with sources/pix of these black ASSAULT victims.

And you seem to be missing the major POINT of this. The pointis the media COVERED UP the story.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sonya610


Secondly, the point is if this HAD been a group of white teens, dozens and dozens of them, that met up on a social network for white people, and then attacked and beat up a random black couple that was stopped at a traffic light it WOULD HAVE MADE THE NEWS!!! [edit on 7-6-2009 by Sonya610]


Well I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I would assume things like this happen all the time in Philadelphia. I'm sorry, but i missed where you provided a post that shows the conversations on ourspace which stated they planned on going around beating up white women?





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