reply to post by RuneSpider
Well I think it's bad anytime things are applied beyond the individual. Most of the focus anymore seems to be on putting people into groups and
labels. And that is done because then you can pick and choose what you want to highlight of that group, and use it as a way of labeling and
applying that to all individuals.
It's a well known media manipulation trick. Take a rally that is about some issue. Go to the rally, find some people who are a bit extreme and so
forth. Interview them, ignore the legit people, and then report the extreme people as being an indicator of the entire group. Then people will
associate the worse people they could find with the group.
Take another rally. Ignore the extreme people, interview the calm people etc. And paint an entirely different picture of another group. It could
be an entire group of crazy's and you can choose what you want things to appear as.
So the real problem and issue here is seeing individuals rather than groups. And one thing I have to disagree with you is that people often try to
attach themselves to the good things other people do. It's usually present in racism more than "humanism" though. Like a racist will do
exactly what I mention above with the media. And they would bring out everything good that someone of that race has done, and then use that to apply
to the entire race. And they would bring out everything bad another race does, and apply that to the entire group.
All of it is really just seeing people in terms of groups. It doesn't matter what another human does, good or bad. If I attach what they have done
to myself, then I am a liar. Generally it's the people who haven't done a thing in their lives who attach the accomplishments of others to
themselves. Like a man might say all the good scientists are white, while he himself couldn't have passed a 9th grade general science class. Of
course, can't say that is always true, because then I'd be guilty of the above myself.
And it's like people just want to advance the group. The group is more important than any single individual. The individual must sacrifice for
the group. And that has been present in history in all forms. Racism, nationalism, political party, religion and beliefs, humanism and so forth.
All forms of "for the group".
But at the base of every group you will find the individual. And when you ignore the individuals, then you are ignoring what the group stands on.
And when that happens, they will likely fall. Thats pretty much the state of America as far as I can tell. All the focus is being put on the good
of the country/group/special groups at the expense of the individual and the base of it all has become weak as the individuals are ignored. Sad
I think it's best not to attach any such things, good or bad to ourselves. Be an individual, rather than a group.