North Korea - Next NWO Battlefield? - Above Politics 66

Homer and Martin explore why and who might be behind the recent nuclear test in North Korea and the upping of tension across the 38th parallel. With General Motors seeking Chapter 11 protection in the US and Magna, the German Government's preferred partner for General Motors Europe, Homer waxes about the US becoming more socialist, and what things hold for GM in Europe. Martin discussed the EU elections and why Ireland is being asked to vote again on the ratification of the Lisbon treaty. Finally, Homer and Martin talking about the appointment of Justice Sotomayor to the Supreme Court. Does her appointment change to the balance of the Supreme Court?







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I disbelieve in the whole Illuminati Freemason things, but i do admit that many of these wars are well orchestrated ones.

Originally posted by InsaneInTheOlMembrain
I disbelieve in the whole Illuminati Freemason things, but i do admit that many of these wars are well orchestrated ones.

I kind of tend to agree with you there, I am not sure that the Illuminati are the same as the Freemasons as some declare, or that they are descended from the Knights Templar.

I just think they are the current World's Most Wealthy and Powerful.

I do think they exist but I doubt all the back story is all.

as for being well orchestrated, I think if you look back on history you will find many wars are quite deliberate and are simply used to obtain wealth.

Didn't you ever see Aladdin? "The Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules."

Arabian niiiiiiiights... like Arabian daaaaaaaays... (you know you remember the song.)

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So maybe China will side with N.Korea when it comes to the crunch?
And the UN resolution they helped pass was a sham?
The Chinese/Russians haven't agreed to stop and search N.Korean ships which was in the original draft, so I wouldn't be surprised if they make 'U' turns or just haven't decided. Or more likely China and Russia are being deceitful towards the West which would also not be surprising as that's bog-standard communist tactics.

So in that case then, if we go to war with N.Korea soon, does that mean its a precursor to an inevitable war with Russia and China?

Anyway we can't answer those questions yet, just wait and see.

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In all fairness, judging by the current state of relations between Americans and the Chinese. It is already a known fact that China was allied with North Korea, but that has seemingly changed since the North has turned away from six-party talks in the region. China will not expressly support North Korea but may or may not provide humanitarian aid to the large amount of refugees who will try to cross into China through the heavily militarized border. As will Russia with Vladivostok dangerously close to North Korea, at most they will probably try to seek out a peaceful end of play containment and keep North Koreans from crossing into Russia.

In the event that there was a war, the North's infrastructure would be taken out fairly quickly along with its missile installations.

Considering China owns 1/2 of American jobs, i doubt they're interest is war. Instead i see a slow and sure degradation of our nation.

You have to take in account that China will not allow an other American base in its region. Having both Koreas under US control will be a strategic advantage to the USA.

I doubt the Chinese will be happy about any one using force in the region (apart from them).
How they will retaliate. I dont know.

The cold hard reality is that everyone in the world realizes North Korea is a basket case nation run by a lunatic. Even the Chinese who supply them with all their fuel and half the food are now withdrawing. The Chinese had helped keep NK from total deterioration mostly because they don't want 10-20 Million starving people crossing their border to survive.

The whole world quietly waits for NK to collapse as it inevitably has to. Dissent has been murderously repressed, but one day the military will take control when their paychecks don't go through.

All tragic.


Mike

I always figured The Masons/ Skull and Bones etc. were just sub chapters of The Illuminati

From what I read somewhere the NWO is wanting to attack China for not wanting to get involved with something which I cannot for the life of me remember, and that Cina has secrety assassins everywhere at NWO leaders spots to assassinate them at a words notice. So I wonder how going after an ally of China would play out?

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All Of You Seem To Be Talking About The Posiblity Of America Going To War With N. Korea , But Have You All Forgotten That We Also Have Alota Tension With Iran Also ?

We Could Go To War With Iran 1st Do To Them Testing Long Range Rockets . Hillary Clinton Already Gave Them A Warning And Told Them If They Do Not Stop We Will Take Afirmative Action . But We Also Have To Keep An Eye On N. Korea .

Personally I Think We Might Go To War With N.Korea And Iran At The Same Time . This Could All Lead Up To WW3

I think its unavoidable, everytime a government tries to go outside of the rules set by the US it automatically becomes a global threat. Just like Iran and Iraq and others.

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I didnt know all that, do you have site, info, links, etc?

Originally posted by mmiichael

The cold hard reality is that everyone in the world realizes North Korea is a basket case nation run by a lunatic. Even the Chinese who supply them with all their fuel and half the food are now withdrawing. The Chinese had helped keep NK from total deterioration mostly because they don't want 10-20 Million starving people crossing their border to survive.

The whole world quietly waits for NK to collapse as it inevitably has to. Dissent has been murderously repressed, but one day the military will take control when their paychecks don't go through.

All tragic.


Mike

Actually, North Korea's dominant ideology is Songun which mean Military First. Songun means that the Military is the number one priority in the country. They [the military] run a separate budget. The country is effectively run by the Military with the Generalissimo Kim Jong Il at the helm.

I believe the NWO is the 'ECONOMY'.
it drives global change.

Originally posted by deessell
Actually, North Korea's dominant ideology is Songun which mean Military First. Songun means that the Military is the number one priority in the country. They [the military] run a separate budget. The country is effectively run by the Military with the Generalissimo Kim Jong Il at the helm.

For sure NK has a militant ideology. They are also an impoverished malnourshed state where starvation is the primary cause of death. They depend on China for almost all their fuel and food. China tolerates them because thet don't want 20 million starving people overrunning their border.

Madman Kim sabre rattles because it gets him attention and international aid to shut him up.

A tragic situation no one knows what to do about. The last thing anyone wants is to win a war with them and have to pay reparations.

What the lunatic will do is anybody's guess. Probably just more of the same.

Hopefully there will be an internal revolt. No one wants to step foot in there.

Mike

China would just call on their debt, stopping producing things among other things for us. I always assumed North Korea was run by a puppet of TPTB, that Il was a member. You think he's running a rival gang?

If the UN were a genuine organisation, they could co-ordinate a global deal with USA, China, Russia and Europe and go and take control of North Korea. How long would it take a genuine united army from EVERY UN country to take out the N Korean government, and deliver the starving N Koreans from a military dictatorship.

I estimate 1-3 months as a maximum amount of time needed, but most likely their government would capitulate if they knew the UN were a real World peace keeping organisation, and not just an arm of the Western dominant countries when they want to wave flags and starve the poor people in the countries that they deny food, medical supplies etc.

Look at Somalia, Rwanda, Burma, etc etc. They DON'T give a damn about the people in these countries. Go back a few years and the UN soldiers were ordered not to shoot at armed groups in Yugoslavia when they were watching whole villages of old people, women and children being killed by the thousands. The UN are a bloody sick joke.

I agree about the UN being a joke. There is no oil in these countries, so there is no great interest in them.
The NWO look to China as a 'role model' for the way they want the rest of the world to operate, China today=your country tomorrow.
As for NK, they will probably be allowed to go & start a war-it will keep western minds preoccupied & steer them away from things happening back home, apart from that, someone will make a huge profit from it, just like all wars.
I myself am part of that system. I have produced 'machine foundations' for NK (ostensibly for canning machines, but they could also be generator platforms for missile launchers-who knows?)
I also worked at Matrix Churchill (TI industries)-making robotic machine tools that made-guess what?-weapons!(for Saddam). Of course this all came out in the Thatcher 'churchill-gate' scandal, but the truth is, EVERYBODY KNEW. The general concensus was that if we don't somebody else will-it was a lucrative contract for 100 m pounds, who would turn that down? The Unions didn't! These days i am very particular about who i work for and what i am making.....

24 October 2008

[Federal Register: October 24, 2008 (Volume 73, Number 207)]

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

[Public Notice 6415]


Rescission of Determination Regarding North Korea

In accordance with section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act of
1979 (50 U.S.C. App. 2405(j)), and as continued in effect by Executive
Order 13222 of August 17, 2001, I hereby rescind the Determination of
January 20, 1988, regarding North Korea. This action is based upon the
considerations contained in the memorandum accompanying the
Presidential Report of June 26, 2008, regarding North Korea.
This rescission shall also satisfy the provisions of section
620A(c) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, Public Law 87-195, as
amended (22 U.S.C. 2371(c)), and section 40(f) of the Arms Export
Control Act, Public Law 90-629, as amended (22 U.S.C. 2780(f)).

Dated: October 11, 2008.

Condoleezza Rice,
Secretary of State, Department of State. [FR Doc. E8-25412 Filed 10-23-08; 8:45 am]

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