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The End of America, “Gone Without a Whimper”

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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by aravoth
For you to even think that Fiat monetary units are a vital function of capitalism is by far the most uneducated, and ignorant BS I have ever seen anyone, post or say on any topic remotely related to economics anywhere. And I have literally been all over the world.


Hey, don't savage this poor kid too much. He might take it personal and complain to the Mod Squad and it will get removed.

And that would be too bad.

Because everything you have said is exactly right. Shall we say right on the money.

I get the impression astronomical amounts of American money are being spent like it's going out of style - because it really is going out of style.

They might as well owe 12 Trillion instead of 10 Trillion. Is there really any difference now?

Does Robert Mugabe worry when his inflation rate is at 369% up from 347% this morning?


Anyway, thanks for the information and insights.


Mike




posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by Question
reply to post by TOSFORUS
 


I'm not sure if I myself would qualify to be one of those leaders. I'd fight of course. But I think some here would agree that I might have a bit of a temper problem when I talk passionately about any certain topic. It might be detrimental if anything when leading troops.


Not necessarily so. A CONTROLLED temper is a fine thing to behold in a leader. When you KNOW they're just holding back only because you might get offended if they actually eat your firstborn, but they might snap at any minute, and are actually weighing the pros and cons....

Folks get downright EAGER to be led!

Just ask ANY drill sergeant.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 02:51 AM
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I loved that picture! I'm gonna set it as my 'puter wallpaper!

That calls for another chalkmark in TPTB column!

I was first made aware of it late one night, after it was already a done deal. I asked around, to see if anyone else had heard about it, and they all said the same thing: "huh? are you off your meds or something? I ain't seen no such commercial! You oughtta leave that stuff alone, it's rotting your brain"

I guess they all got caught up on it later.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 03:29 AM
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You're right ...the modern American does not know what it is like to live without freedom. Read a history book or two and figure out what our country was founded on and for. Our forefathers knew all too well what oppression was..and hence after the revolutionary war the US was founded...so we would never have to live without freedom again...Cry and moan all you want because you are not getting your way and the US should be doing this and the US should be doing that..it is in your rights to protest..but do you? If people have such a problem with how this country is run and seem to have such a problem living in this country..well..there is a whole world out there waiting for you to share your views...by moving there and getting the hell out of the USA..we don't need bleeding heart pansies and we don't want them... OF course some of the other countries are going to say that we are doomed to fail..Look at Russia..they failed in a major way...a lot of the country split..they are still sore about that..but the US will not fail...we will fall on hard times..as we are now..but we will come back again..Look at the great depression..much worse that today's economy...and we boomed after that..given that WW2 helped..take pride in this country...we are unique..and If you do not then get the HELL out!! and Stop bashing the US from the safety of its own confines..see how talking trash about the US feels when you are a citizen and you live in a hovel in Kenya or Namibia..or as an outcast in China...or maybe as a jealous Ruskie who will have no friends..good luck..I hope you enjoy the true meaning of self sufficient when you have no foodstamps, no welfare and no public housing assistance to help you get by..A lot of people seem to get down on this country when we are in the financial crapper...But how many protesters did you see when we had a surplus economy and everyone was making money hand over fist in the late 90's? so SHUT THE HELL UP AND EITHER GET OUT OR STOP CRYIN!!

[edit on 2-6-2009 by Stumpy1]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by aravoth
For you to even think that Fiat monetary units are a vital function of capitalism is by far the most uneducated, and ignorant BS I have ever seen anyone, post or say on any topic remotely related to economics anywhere. And I have literally been all over the world.


Hey, don't savage this poor kid too much. He might take it personal and complain to the Mod Squad and it will get removed.

And that would be too bad.

Because everything you have said is exactly right. Shall we say right on the money.

I get the impression astronomical amounts of American money are being spent like it's going out of style - because it really is going out of style.

They might as well owe 12 Trillion instead of 10 Trillion. Is there really any difference now?

Does Robert Mugabe worry when his inflation rate is at 369% up from 347% this morning?


Anyway, thanks for the information and insights.


Mike







Please show anywhere were from any worthy post where the deficit is anywhere close to 10 or 12 Trillion $? IF so I would love it..IF not then shut the hell up



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 03:41 AM
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Funny thing is...if even 6% of the population felt the same way that a lot of you people do then you might have something..The only problem is that the majority of Americans do not feel the same way. And therefore they would not rise up..and no matter what the more those people are being called sheeple and the like..being ridiculed because they feel like things are ok for them...they might just rise up and squash you. If enough of the population felt strongly enough about and issue then something would be done about it..Too many people take this country for granted and seem to think they know what everyone else needs or wants..but those "mind readers" are very wrong..and if they persist they will soon find out just how wrong they are...



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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Some people said Europeans understand all this and don't fall prey to the same tactics? Europe is lost to the NWO, they allready are a socialist union. But Russia on the other hand, they indeed are out on all this, they are more free than any European state, I fear that we might end up like England if things don't change. Sure there are some good free thinking people in Europe but I don't see them doing anything about it, their hands are so tied.

All I'm sayin is, I've seen quite a bit of hatin on American's as beings the ones to of allowed this. Was it not Europeans that showered Obama with love? Is England not the first modern totalitarian state to rise out of a western nation? We don't need hypocrites patronizing us. On the other hand I welcome Russia's insight, they have shunned the European Union and walked the walk. Lol, Europe is what this administration is trying to mimic. If there ever is a time where martial law is declared on us I believe NATO troops will be the ones trying to push us around.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:14 AM
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Great thread star and flag.

I know a lot of people don’t think much of the tea party, but they were the only ones I have seen who came out to show how they felt.


Although I’m in oz I watch the U.S very close. There is an old saying ” when America sneezers the whole world catchers a cold.”

A question. Is there anything in your constitution that allows you remove Obama, or do you have to wait till he serves his 4 year?


Every time I see that man stripping your country to bits my blood boils. Please people of the U.S do something!

It’s one thing to get the others to wake up. Now you need to get them to stop pressing the snooze button.

All the best to you all in the U.S.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:42 AM
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A question. Is there anything in your constitution that allows you remove Obama, or do you have to wait till he serves his 4 year?


I think maybe u don't quite get it. Its not just about him or any other single guy. Even without him in the oval office, the PTB would still be pulling the strings of power and ensuring everything goes according to their agenda.

The solution/problem is bigger than just who is the POTUS.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by iammonkey

A question. Is there anything in your constitution that allows you remove Obama, or do you have to wait till he serves his 4 year?



I'm not a believer in unsubstantiated conspiracies. But Obama has spent a fortune avoiding him showing his actual Birth Certificate. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear a filed case on this now. Reason to believe he wasn't born in the US or it's territories and is ineligible for his office.

Check out other threads and websites.

Mike



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by Stumpy1
Please show anywhere were from any worthy post where the deficit is anywhere close to 10 or 12 Trillion $? IF so I would love it..IF not then shut the hell up




en.wikipedia.org...

As of May 25, 2009, the total U.S. federal debt was $11,305,673,498,034.18


I said owed not deficit.
Can you read?
Did you tell me to "shut the hell up?"
Does you mother know you're cussing?




[edit on 2-6-2009 by mmiichael]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:18 AM
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Man, you talk a lot of smack! Ever been overseas? seen what you speak so freely about up close and personal? Where? When? If you can't answer that honestly with a loud and proud YES! then you probably ought to be more careful just who it is you're trying to throw out of this country and send there. Ever break bread with those "foreigners", and realize that YOU are the "foreigner" there? Have a few meals of rice and beans day in and day out, because that's all there was, and you ate what they ate? Ever eat GOAT, and think you were livin' large? What about eating SNAKES?

If you haven't, don't you EVER attempt to throw me out of my country, and IN to one you know nothing about. I promise it won't go well.

As for "...they might just rise up and squash you." and "..but those "mind readers" are very wrong..and if they persist they will soon find out just how wrong they are... " You'd best lace your boots up REAL tight before you LEAD your troops THIS way.

And if you ain't able to lead men in the effort to make good on your threats and throw me out, then maybe YOU'RE the one that ought to "shut the hell up!" as you so eloquently put it.

nenothtu out










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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:27 AM
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nevermind.

[edit on 2-6-2009 by Applesandoranges]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 05:47 AM
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You may be true Sheeper, we are the mother of the NWO.
But you have to realize that you are the guinea pigs, you are the test subjects for this NWO.
They want to see how far and how fast they can push their agenda.
Europe has lots of countries with different histories that had their share of pain.
They cant push us like they do it to you because there are too many parties too many unstable people to control.
People here know their past and they cant be fooled a second time thats why they pass laws using stealth and caution.
Europe is too unstable to be controlled just yet.
They advertise or force the laws only after they voted it.
Of course "hired muscle" will push you around when the time comes if it ever comes i hope it does ant because im tired of all these wars and suffering,we are all tired.No sane person would ever kill their own people,if the time comes you can count on your own soldiers for support.But they could always send them away on a mission away from home when it starts getting nasty.
It was every ones dream to go to America because it was the land of opportunity as a kid i wanted to go there too but America changed, you fell prey to your own ignorance.
You say our hands are tied but they are not.They wanted to get the microchips rollin here but the church stepped in and asked for the peoples support and we came.
We signed petitions and the operation got canceled for now but at least we tryed.They raised our carbon tax so when people came home with second hand cars they found out that the carbon tax was even triple the amount they paid for the car so they took it to the streets and the tax was lowered.
It's easy to ignore your own problems and point out another mans problems.
Even after we defeated communism in 1989 there are still some communists living to this day sucking the money from our country pretending they are liberals or democrats or even socialists.
Who showered obama with love?It wasn't me it was the ignorant rulers and mass media that likes to kiss the donkey.
Don't put everyone in the same box.
I never considered obama as the messiah or as the saviour or as the anti Christ or what ever hes just a man like you and me just because the media talks about him all day does ant mean i have to.
Some of you say that no one is awake but i say you are all wrong.
Do you know who will fight for you if the time ever comes?
The teenagers will fight because they want freedom, its in their blood,the more you restrict them the more dangerous they become because they cant stand being told what to do,they want their own truth and their own path to follow.
They did it in my country and they will do it in your country.
Of course im not the one to tell you that you are wrong or that i am right its your own truth and i cant judge it, only weight it and chose to take it with me or leave it.
Sorry for any grammar mistakes.


[edit on 2-6-2009 by xSeraphim]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 06:06 AM
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I do get it. That’s why they had the tea party. It’s about ALL OF THEM not hearing YOU the people. INCLUDING TPB
(but no one has made my blood boil as much as Obama just my honest feelings)

Any way I’ll rephrase the question.

Is there anything in the constitution that gives the people power to get any POTUS out of the white house or do they have to run the 4 yrs?
Thanks


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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 06:19 AM
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Is there anything in the constitution that gives the people power to get any POTUS out of the white house or do they have to run the 4 yrs?

The word on the street here is "impeachment".
Lying about a blow job will almost do it!
(With enough money for the investigation that is)
Authorizing and commiting war crimes? Nah...

P.S. The constitution?
We use that as a door mat.
Or maybe as a rag to wipe the dirt off our conscience.





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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 07:04 AM
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Great post. I recorded Beck's program on Fox yesterday. He discussed the articles in Pravda, issuing the same warnings as Sarge, and the OP.
Keep your powder dry boys and girls.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 08:34 AM
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Get's me ready for revolution., Best revolutionary music ever produced. Every song is politically driven.

(Warning Explicit Lyrics - Parental Advisory )







[edit on 2-6-2009 by libertytoall]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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Great Music! It stirs my heart to hear rap about the Constitution! Taking it to the streets and the youth! Got amymore?



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Great thread and very true. I just hope that all this doesn't come to fruition. I think that some type of one world government would be the best thing for the world right now, but it can't be under control of the 'ruling elite'. I hope that more people are willing to stand up and try to stop this Roman-type collapse, if not then we may be in trouble.



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