An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak,
they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots
So this says the peak will be in 2013 but with a below average amount of sunspots. No need to worry??? NO, not so fast..... even though this is below
average there is still huge cause for concern here....
It is tempting to describe such a cycle as "weak" or "mild," but that could give the wrong impression
Even a below-average cycle is capable of producing severe space weather," points out Biesecker. "The great geomagnetic storm of 1859, for instance,
occurred during a solar cycle of about the same size we’re predicting for 2013
So if we get this storm which is equal to the great storm of 1859, surely we will be in a much worse situation than back then???!!!
We are totally dependent on electricity these days and without it, we really cant function. Lets face it, how many of us are really able to live off
To give you an idea of how crazy the 1859 storm was, here is a link to Newspaper reports from back then -
The Superintendent of the Canadian Telegraph Company's line telegraphs as follows in relation to the effect of the Aurora Borealis last night:
'…so completely were the wires under the influence of the Aurora Borealis, that it was found utterly impossible to communicate between the
telegraph stations, and the line had to be closed.' The same difficulty prevailed as far South as Washington
So that was in 1859. In 2013 that will have been 154 years ago!!! We are in trouble!!
And not only was 1859 a bad year. Here is a link showing many of these solar storms over the years, -
Thats where all the power flows across the USA. Imagine the effects of a severe solar storm on this flow of power!!!
So thats just the USA. what about other countries. well i found this table showing world electricity consumption broken down by country -
This list of countries by electricity consumption is mostly based on The World Factbook. For informational purposes several non-sovereign entities
are also included in this list. In addition, the per capita data for many countries may be slightly inaccurate as population data may not be for the
same year that the consumption data are. Population data were obtained from the List of countries by population in 2005, except for years other than
2005, in which case they were obtained from the Wikipedia pages for the corresponding countries/territories
So if this Solar Cycle 24 really affects our electricity and can knock it out i'm really starting to think now, we are totally screwed!!!
Like food, water and air, electricity has become one of life's necessities for much of the world. We have all too often taken the supply of
high-quality electricity for granted, believing that it would just always be there--the signs of a true utility. Recent events now make this
assumption much more precarious than ever before
The enormous electrical blackout on Thursday, August 14, 2003 shut down just about everything--including air conditioning, air and rail travel,
cellular and telephone access, and Internet services--in what's been referred to as the largest power blackout in history to hit the northeastern
U.S. and southeastern Canada
The more you look at electricity dependency, the more you find. The internet is just covered with articles about various power blackouts and how they
affected us when they happened.
I imagine there would be utter chaos in the streets. Imagine if New York city was powerless for weeks or even months??!!!
I heard that during Londons snow storm last year (which was only a few inches) the city was only in supply of food for up to 3 or 4 days if it was cut
These are just some of the effects -
The cycle's victims could include space satellites. The coming storms could heat the upper levels of Earth's atmosphere, causing it to expand and
exert drag on low-flying satellites -- perhaps enough drag to tug some of them back to Earth. Solar storms have been blamed for the U.S. Skylab space
station's premature fall back to Earth in 1979
Air travelers could be affected, too. Since the end of the Cold War, to avoid headwinds, airlines have increasingly flown subpolar routes to get
between the United States and other Northern Hemisphere continents quickly and cheaply. But during solar storms, they must avoid the poles and fly
more southerly routes.
So these are a few effects. Think about it though. There would be so much more chaos than just what ive mentioned. How could this affect food supply,
jobs, money.. health etc etc.
There is nothing we can do, apart from trying to be more self sufficient. Ensure you have a good store of food and water. Be prepared to go without
power for many weeks.
There are some great threads on this site for preparing for this type of thing and how to survive.
I guess things will start to get pretty interesting in the next few years. Lets hope our dependency on electricity will not lead to a catastrophic
loss of life.
I agree, it is a disaster waiting to happen. We are totally unprepared. Even in 1859, the "Carrington event" disrupted daily life dramatically,
imagine what would happen now? It gives the creeps. Lets hope all goes well.
According to the ice core data, the carrington event type storms occur once in 500 years.
Ice cores show evidence that events of similar intensity recur at an average rate of approximately once per 500 years. Since 1859, less severe
storms have occurred in 1921 and 1960, when widespread radio disruption was reported.
Agree on your opinion. Dr. Kaku is one of the greatest scientists the world has ever seen.But we are helpless when it happens, we cannot protect the
satellites which are in the open and the electricity grids which have open over head lines. To protect the electrical systems, we would have to start
from scratch, which is like civilization starting once again.
People that are in the cities better be prepared to get the hell out of them. The american population can't go two days in darkness without riots,
and civil unrest, what would it be like for months or years in darkness? We are talking about the complete unraveling of civilized society, bringing
us back to the Dark ages-literally.
Storing food without refridgeration? I know how to do it, but how many others do?
No grocery stores, no gas pumps working, if you sitdown and really think about everything we would not have access to without electricity, and then
think about the immediate panic that will happen it's truly frightening. I hope everyone here has guns and ammo to protect themselves and their
It will be nice to look into the sky for once and see the stars without any light pollution, the way our ancestors did. But it's a tough price just
to be able to do that. If it happens it will take us a long time to recover, but perhaps it will bring us back to a simpler time. A time when
neighbors were neighbors, and small communities flourished.
I watched an interview with another scientist about this subject as well, I forget who he was or where I saw it, but he said that there is some kind
of transformer shielding thing that is about the size of a washing machine that could be spliced into the power grid at ech and every transformer
location that would protect our power grid from spikes, and would effectively save the US from losing powr period. He estimated that it would cost
the US around 20 billion dollars and would take 2 years to implement. So there is hope if our government takes it seriously and starts working on it
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