Birth certificate issue No. 1 at Fox News, page 3
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reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 12:28 PM by Symbiote
reply to post by Stormdancer777



McCain did not plan to win.

That was why Palin was brought in.

Everyone is reading from the same script.


reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 12:34 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Symbiote






McCain did not plan to win.

It certainly looked that way, and then his treatment of her before and after the election, throwing her to the wolves,

I await their karma.


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reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 12:36 PM by earlywatcher
Considering the rabid anger toward bush, it was pretty much inevitable that the democratic candidate would win, whether it be hillary or barack. That being said, McCain did not run a strong campaign. His failure to bring up the obama's chicago machine associations such as rezko, let alone wright, ayers, and others as well as the eligibility issue which he himself had to take to congress is inexplicable. He may have personally wanted to win but maybe he was under orders not to. They wanted the obama brand to be as strong as possible. why? maybe so that the republicans would not be blamed for all the economic fallout that was inevitable. don't know, but no one can believe mccain ran a winning campaign.

i've heard speculation that whoever controls obama has all this to hold over him. he must keep to the path he has been set or things will be leaked. he has so very much to hide. the entire birth certificate thing which flows into the occidental records, the indonesian passport he probably traveled to pakistan on when he was in college, and so on. there must be a lot of people out there who know things that have not been revealed. to this point the MSM has brutally suppressed any hints but it's all over the blogosphere. what will it take to catch fire?

the democratic party should be held accountable even now for putting forth a candidate who did not provide the most basic proofs of citizenship. that should be a given. in fact that's one of the main reasons so many people won't believe it is a real problem: would the dems be that foolish? but the republicans are equally to blame. they never spotlighted this issue. all questions have come from outsiders. so both parties are complicit in this serious problem.

why? things are usually about money, so this is probably about money but I don't know how.


reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 12:39 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by xratedbarbie





Well our countries problems root deeper than Mr. Barry He is only the result of this corruption,


You may be correct he could be as big of a pawn as Palin.
Him and that narcissistic ego of his, " you ain't seen nothing yet Obama."


reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 12:41 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by earlywatcher





i've heard speculation that whoever controls obama has all this to hold over him. he must keep to the path he has been set or things will be leaked.


That's an interesting take on the sujbect, kinda like selling ones soul to the devil.

You know he cried when they passed the stimulus package, wonder what would have happened to him if they hadn't?

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reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 12:51 PM by TheAmused
reply to post by whatukno



Can you please tell me what it smells like?

By what i meant Denial.

1 the man gave up his right as a U.S citizen or his mother did either way you look at it.
In Indonesia...
At the time Obama was there they did not allow duel citizenship PERIOD!!!

So you see his name on that school paper?
Barry sontoro or what ever..
He is legaly adpoted and Indonesian citizen...
How he cant have duel citizenship?..duh he gave them up or his mother did for him.

Even to me if he was born in hawaii..
That makes him a naturalized citizen now.
not natural born..
He gave away all right in Indonesia. or his mother did for him.

all the other stuff i let the legal people smarter than me figure out lol

But i know his grandmother even said once...
He was born here in kenya on video....Yeah thats right..even said i was there when he was born

And the hospital in kenya has a sign up...
Birth place of barrack obama lol
So go figure

Personally i want the matter solved in court ASAP..

I f its true its a mockery to America is based on!!!
Period.
And if you are American and claim to care about it...
Why not want the truth instead of trying to Deflect it 24/7.




also the fact they do a background check on Mcain.. a man known to fight for our country and a P.O.W....becouse obama campaign swore he was not a legal american.

But OH by all miens don't check barrack hussian obama lol
who has more red flag's raised beside his persona that any man in history. i can think of atm.
Secrecy surrounds him to the point people go retarded when you mention anything bad against him lol


You do not even see the irony of that in any way?
Something is afoot.


that's all im saying on that lol

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reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 01:07 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by whatukno



I still think that if there was even a remote possibility that Obama wasn't born in the US that John McCain would have been all over that instantly.


Wrong.... McCain was too much of a nice guy during the campaign (except when it came to Palin). He wouldn't even allow any campaign workers to use Obama's middle name. It's no wonder he lost.



reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 01:12 PM by mikerussellus
Just for the heck of it, I googled fake birth certificate and I got

www.diplomasandtranscripts.com...

So allyou Obama supporters out there, just take a look to see how easy someone (even a dork like me) could get one...


reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 01:22 PM by BillyBillyBobBob
Hasn't the Dual Citizenship claim been proven bogus already?

travel.state.gov...

Dual Nationality: Indonesian law does not recognize dual nationality for adults over 18 years of age.

As he was at school there, I'm assuming he was not over 18 years of age, therefore this is moot. I spent a while checking some of the other claims made about Obamas certificate when it was big news, and I keep up to date on the Rt. Hon. Phillip J Berg Esq., and I've not seen anything yet that wasn't simply refuted in this manner.

There is no real proof of anything, all they have is some slight suspicion because he won't release a certain form of his certificate, but we can be certain, if they do, it will be declared void by the conspiracists anyway, after all, Obama is part of the Cabal now, so could have a fake birth certificate manufactured easily if he needed it, he does have the CIA underneath him, and they are pretty good at making false IDs when needed for agents.


reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 01:22 PM by exile1981
Originally posted by mikerussellus
Just for the heck of it, I googled fake birth certificate and I got

www.diplomasandtranscripts.com...

So allyou Obama supporters out there, just take a look to see how easy someone (even a dork like me) could get one...


In the work I do we see a lot of fake certificates for courses and certifications. Some of them are really good fakes that's why some industry bodies now have made lists available to see if someone really has the license they claim to have. We have to be really careful because a lot of people could die very horribly if one of these jokers with a fake license got hired.
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