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Birth certificate issue No. 1 at Fox News

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posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Thank God that some influential people wont let this just be swept under the carpet. Obama is not a legal American. How do we even know that he was rightfully elected? We knew years ago that the system could be hacked. I will stand with many Americans and say he is not my president. By law George W. Bush is still the president.

I call on American military personnel to stand up and disregard any order handed down by Obama unless its to protect us or our allies, A just order. Stand up for your country, ITS YOUR DUTY TO REMOVE THIS FRAUD.




posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Kernel Korn

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Use your imagination.

[edit on 113131p://bSaturday2009 by Stormdancer777]


There's too much imagination rolling around this forum and not enough logic. Is is a slow day so this issue is being dredged up?


Actually it was asked at a WH news conference yesterday, so it is still being brought up, by many others who would like to know.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Even using my imagination it doesn't seem plausible that the top seed republican nominee would back down to his opponent when there was a sure fire way to win the election hands down.

By saying this your also saying that McCain threw the election to make sure that Obama was elected. Now that would be even more of a conspiracy.

Why would McCain intentionally loose the election?

Think about it, if there was a question for the last two years whether or not Obama is a natural born American citizen, don't you think that the other democrats would have stepped on Barry Obama at first chance?




You just learned the name he used to go by.

I suggest you stop posting here about how "Crazy" it is and start down the rabbit hole.

Obviously you have not bothered to read a single page. Go to youtube if you don't feel like reading.

Open your mind, listen, and read rather than rapid fire post here how it cannot be and does not make sense.

It is very obvious if someone had a video of him being born in a Kenyan village, you would not believe it, as you accuse others about their beliefs of a video showing a Hawaii birth.

I don't know either way.

JUST SHOW THE DOCUMENTS!!!


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posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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No effense, but you apparently are not well-versed enough on the subject to take any of your input seriously. Barry Soetoro, his adopted name while living and attending school in Indonesia, is a well known fact. Also a well known fact is that NO ONE may hold duel citizenship in Indonesia and attend school there. Ergo, since barry attended school in Indonesia he was an Indonesian citizen.

Many believe, as I, that he attended Occidental College as a foreign exchange student from... wait for it........ INDONESIA! Strange how he has spent big bucks to keep his Occidental College records sealed from the public?

You are also apparently unaware that the address listed on his public birth announcement is hogwash. A few journalists - notice how I used the word "Journalist" to denote someone who actually investigates news as opposed to dishing out talking points? - interviewed the next door neighbor of that address who has lived there for nearly 50 years and she claims that there was never anyone living there named Obama or Soetoro and that there was no children there either.

Also unbeknownst to you are the questions surrounding his Selective Service reegistration - the numbers are just all wrong and indicate that he hadn't registered until over a decade after he was legally obligated to do so - assuming that the Selective Service registration is even real.

Then there are the nagging questions regarding the COLB... why release a COLB as your "Birth Certificate" when it isn't one??? Anyone, born anywhere can obtain a COLB in Hawaii. It just states a name, DOB and that you are alive. If he was so willing to trot his COLB out for the whole world to see, why not the long form Birth Certificate??? And further, why spend millions upon millions of dollars on lawyers to challenge any and every attempt to shine the light upon the truth? Honestly sounds like he has something to hide, doesn't it?

I'm sorry, but your continued denial and obfuscation based on your emotional attachment to Barry Soetoro have no place here in a reasoned debate over his eligibility. But hey, thanks for playing.
No really... I mean it.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
The question that I have is, once it does come out officially that Obama is not a naturally born American, is the Democratic Party going to be dealt with as conspirators in this treason; or is the whole affair going to covered up and the Democratic Party is going to continue as if nothing happened?


You sound convinced.


That's the most likely explanation I can think of for all the diversion and expense he's gone through to keep his records secret.


I agree, that is why people are so suspicious, it just doesn't makes sense for mister transparency to cover up something so tame as a BC.

I keep Wondering why.

Is it the name or is it the Birth place that are the problem?



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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The only thing worse then Obama not being a citizen (or whatever) is the possibility of Biden as President
. So lets drop this one.

-E-



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by MysterE
The only thing worse then Obama not being a citizen (or whatever) is the possibility of Biden as President
. So lets drop this one.

-E-


Actually, after Biden's last comment, I think he is sick of Obama, lol



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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The only way to prove you right would be to release the information.

[edit on 30-5-2009 by lpowell0627]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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Well Ill be back once y'all make the connection between Obama and Hitler. I am sure there's also an alien agenda in here as well. Ohh maybe Michelle Obama is actually a guy!



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


-snip-

McCain was in it to win it,


You sure could have fooled me. He was in it to win all right. Second place, that is. This being a conspiracy website I'll go out on the extreme edge and take the position that the two political parties collaborate and simply exchange the reigns periodically. After a lifetime of watching both parties allow each other to get away with horrendous crimes, vote for legislation the public does not support and stick a knife in the back of their own followers I no longer have any doubt the game is rigged.

Just like I never understood how true conservatives could support Bush and Co the way the democrats have given blind allegiance and support to Obama blows my mind. Just the fact that people think they're going to get real "change" from a Chicago machine politician strikes me as insanity. Wish in one hand and keep the other far away from your nose, I guess.

Obama's lied about everything else. He's broken just about every campaign promise, switched his positions away from the ones which got him elected - nothing would surprise me.

Lastly, no one spends millions of dollars to hide a birth certificate from the public unless there is something there which would be damaging. People can dance around all they want but that's undeniable, IMO.

[edit on 30-5-2009 by ecoparity]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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Could it be possible that tptb know and are so embarrassed and concerned about the ramification of this being possibly true are unable to find a solution.

[edit on 123131p://bSaturday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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You sure could have fooled me. He was in it to win all right. Second place,



I agree, he didn't look like his heart was in it.

And I still believe Palin was unknowingly used by the scum bags.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Well Ill be back once y'all make the connection between Obama and Hitler. I am sure there's also an alien agenda in here as well. Ohh maybe Michelle Obama is actually a guy!


Way to "Deny Ignorance!"

Especially when kozmo went through the trouble of laying out all the real issues for you.

BTW, since you mentioned it, Michelle kind of looks like Bubba from Forrest Gump. Look at that grill!!! Maybe a reincarnation!






That's a MAN Baby!!!

See her Adam's Apple, big hands, manly arms, and flat chest?

[edit on 30-5-2009 by FrankWhite222]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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I guess you have a short memory. You where commenting on many of the postings about Obama right after the election and it was 'EXPLAINED' to you then, and talked about for months, but now you feign ignorance. Play your games Amigo. Even those that worked hard to get him elected and weren't knowledgeable about that mans Socialist/Communist leanings are starting to wake up. They are becoming some of his most ardent critics and that does not bode well for Barry!!

Zindo



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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It is arguable McCain was not born in the USA but in Coco Solo, Panama Canal Zone. I reckon I, myself, don't know well how strong are the legal grounds for such a claim. Could it be a reason why McCain didn't jump on the story ? He could disqualify himself ?
Panama Canal Zone was not strictly US but "controlled" by the USA. As an example, there was no US customs between Panama and the Canal Zone.

I can find no reasonable argument why Obama would rather face legal actions than simply showing an irrefutable piece of official paper. Who is paying the lawyers and what reason for ? It makes no sense really.

Anyone remembers this eye-catching news headline one year ago ?
Passport Security Breach on McCain, Clinton & Obama


An embarrassed State Department admitted today that the passport files of all three presidential candidates -- Sens. John McCain, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton -- have been breached by its employees.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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The conspiracy here isn't that people believe he's not a natural born US citizen. The conspiracy (if there is one) is that if he isn't, it doesn't matter, he'll remain president. I'm sure there are some higher ups that are and have been fully aware (if it's true) that he wasn't born here and are prepared to keep this fact buried.

It will never come to light because it's not supposed to. He'll never have to go before congress like McCain, he'll never have to show a judge his certificate, because they don't care if he is or not.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
So let's get this straight.

Obama wasn't born in the United States but Kenya.

Obama isn't even Obama, his real name is Barry something.

Of course Barry, right, was born in Kenya.

And McCain was too afraid of backlash off of exposing his opponent Barry's obvious disqualification for the job. So he decided to hush up about the whole thing even though he knew about it.

And he also feared the almighty race card. RIIIIGHT.


Your logic is missing one alternative! I know this is crazy right... here goes nothing....
What if McCain and Obama are both playing on the same team, for the same football club???

What if McCain purposely ran out of steam at the end to seal the deal on Obama winning the election??? I mean good choice with Sarah Palin!

Its not like politicians would ever dig up dirt to bring down rivial politicians now is it? Why didn't the McCain team dish the dirt???


Back to topic at hand... I do find it a bit suspicious that McCain had to prove his birthplace and Obama didn't. Was that to done to direct attention to/or from Obamas Birthplace??



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Well Ill be back once y'all make the connection between Obama and Hitler. I am sure there's also an alien agenda in here as well. Ohh maybe Michelle Obama is actually a guy!


You sir fail epically, A long perfectly reasonable explanation was just posted and you have absolutely nothing to refute it with. Instead of, you know, even considering the possibility of being wrong you choose to make what you deem as ridiculous statements. They have a lot more truth than you could possibly understand too but I won't bother with that.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Sorry, catch me up, who is Barry?

Is that supposed to be Obama's real name? So now our president's name is supposedly Barry? Where does this come from? Is it some vague high school picture photoshoped next to a picture of Obama?


Actually the book Obama wrote about his life mentions that he went by the name Barry Sotoro after his mother divorced his father and married Lolo Sotoro.

Not a conspiracy, not some mud slinging issue just a fact.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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not unless they were all working together to get obama in. Look at the ties. Obama has gone to bohemian Grove so has mccain along with most of the presidents. Also gore bush and obama have had ties to George Soros(richest man money in 70+ countries) so it could be multiple factors that the sheep are not looking at. But remember truth is the manifestation of time.



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