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Birth certificate issue No. 1 at Fox News

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posted on May, 31 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by redhatty

Originally posted by SourGrapes
Here's a quote from Obama's book, 'Dreams of My Father"
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OMG!!!


Is that a real quote from the book? where does it go after that?

Disclosure: I already believe Obama is an usurper


Redhatty, I had believed you were a man of integrity.

Now I see you stooping to repeat lies from Stormfront to smear your President's character.

Seriously, don't you find that a rather pathetic thing to do?






[edit on 31/5/09 by Kailassa]




posted on May, 31 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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reply to post by jkrog08
 


sorry! didn't mean to twist your words. misunderstood what you are saying. i get kind of hot and bothered about this issue because obama and his enforcers have sewn up the information so tightly. so we agree that he should have to be a natural born citizen to be president at this time, but that this law might need to be amended or repealed in the future allowing more people access to this leadership role? i agree that often naturalized citizens value what we have more than we do.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 04:30 PM
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So let's get this straight.

This issue is from a Neo-Nazi KKK website.

Being brought to the American people by Fox news.

Makes a lot more sense now.

and I'm the dummy?



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 04:51 PM
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reply to post by whatukno
 


Yup, you sure are. Its NOT only from this one site that you say is a KKK front. This issue is not dieing off because of the total secrecy of this admninstration. If even 2% of the population wants to know just who this man is and exactly what his credentials are, they have the absolute right to be told.
Zindo

[edit on 5/31/2009 by ZindoDoone]



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
So let's get this straight.

This issue is from a Neo-Nazi KKK website.

Being brought to the American people by Fox news.

Makes a lot more sense now.

and I'm the dummy?


Seriously? Are you reading this thread or are you just skipping most of it and replying to members that lean towards your stance? The issue being brought up about his legitimacy and from fox news is not the "issue" that your are referring to that came from Stormfront. What they were referring to have come from stormfront was the fake quote supposedly from Obama's book.



“As I was drifting out to sea on a journey knowing not where I was going but I knew it was a journey I had to undertake to find a mystery called Socialism, Communism, Christian Black Liberation Theology and Islam these ideals would qualify me to become the next president of the U.S. And I knew I had to loose something along the way, well I actually had to loose my birth certificate to be more precise”………..


Doing a google search, it appears this is not from any legitimate news source, only a satirical comment from a biased commenter that was posted here by only a thread commenter and has no bearing on our discussion. Don't deflect this thread or it's legitimacy because "whatukno" is a joke. And the person that brought this up appears to be wrong because I can only find that quote from here. israelinsider.ning.com...


[edit on 31-5-2009 by Sheeper]



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Sheeper
And the person that brought this up appears to be wrong because I can only find that quote from here. israelinsider.ning.com...


No, I was not wrong.

You can find that trash on the banned hate-site by googling:
"dreams of my father" As I was drifting out to sea on a journey

Unsurprisingly I can't give a link to a site like that in this forum.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
Sorry, catch me up, who is Barry?

Is that supposed to be Obama's real name? So now our president's name is supposedly Barry? Where does this come from? Is it some vague high school picture photoshoped next to a picture of Obama?


Your really missing the point here. Barry is a pet name for Barack.. nothing really mind boggling about that IMO. The whole birth certificate issue from my point of view is that Obama could have easily been groomed for this role he's in right now by those who really control American politics. I remember hearing about Obama for the first time ever in around 2004, and for some reason they were already putting the idea out that he would be the first serious black presidential candidate, this was when he was practically unknown on the global scene, then the MSM totally made him into an overnight celebrity, there was something suspicious about it. Then he writes an autobiography, almost desperately, to try and prove that he's 'one of the people'. It's the same garbage they did with the WTC movie and Flight 93 one, before anyone could question the facts, they release these movies as 'the true story', and I think anyone with a bit of logic and good information knows how big of an insult those movies are to the public.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Jooka24
reply to post by Eight
 


Try that one on your boss that asks for your social insurance number. Really you guys gotta stop being brainwashed before its too late. And if you wanna poke holes in my argument, WE EMPLOY THE GOVERNMENT



I'm sorry,but I'm not understanding you here;can you elaborate a bit more so i can know what you are talking about?



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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might also be referring to the years when barack obama went by barry soetoro. the indonesian years. i'm not clear on what name he went by when he returned to hawaii.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to post by Eight
 


Guilt of what? I didnt bring this into a courtroom...I was stating his history which I think a lot would be interested in. If you can not understand that a lot of what you experience when young moulds your adult life, your beliefs,your character and also you can be indebted to people that helped you... then...I am probably wasting my time.
As we are talking about the POTUS, I think its VERY relevant.


No,I actually understand what you are saying here and agree with you. I hold the belief that everybody,and I do mean everybody in government owes a favor or two.

But when you make a post and word it the way you did I had no other choice but to think you were implying that he was in league with these people.

If we are going to use associations as a criteria for guilt then the entire government is guilty.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
While I will (and have) freely admit that I don't like Obama...what I HATE is how easily, and often our politicians lie to us. It is so damn insulting to anyone with half an intelligent mind.

I would like to see this (and any other such issue, on either political side) followed through until the paperwork and or "under oath" statements are secured...and then let it stand. Mostly to fry anyone who was involved.

We all know we are being lied to on a regular basis, and that "they" don't even try to hide it well anymore. Something like this...something like now having a President who isn't allowed to be President...would wake a lot of other people up to how this entire system has screwed "we the people".


You make very good points here. Do the American people actually know how much we have been lied to? This is just one more thing that tells all of us that government can't be trusted.

This is the one common this that we all agree on no matter what your view is concerning this matter.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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You're statement, describing the quoted text as satire, is correct and I did get it from the site you listed.

I have no opinion, nor comment, to the site's credibility. I came across the quote while searching for additional clues or opines on the issues we've been debating.

I've sense downloaded the book and searched for the said quote, but the key phrases did not come up. Although, some other interested key words are littered and constant throughout (ex. Malcolm X). If anyone is interested in reading the full memoir, let me know.


Edit: I just wanted to add an apology for quoting and contributing something without first assessing its validity; especially on such a hot topic. My bad. [kicking myself for drinking and posting]



[edit on 31-5-2009 by SourGrapes]



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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Certificate disclosure, Billboards, and of course, HR985 would prevent Obama from having to show Certificate without perponderance of evidence.

Here is the story.

www.disclose.tv...


They are using the media instead of the legal system



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by Sheeper
And the person that brought this up appears to be wrong because I can only find that quote from here. israelinsider.ning.com...


No, I was not wrong.

You can find that trash on the banned hate-site by googling:
"dreams of my father" As I was drifting out to sea on a journey

Unsurprisingly I can't give a link to a site like that in this forum.


Thank you, it is posted there in a forum with a link to it's original source israelinsider.ning.com... . So saying the quote is from stormfront is inacurate, it's like a commentor posting a quote from the the New York Times here on ATS and then assuming that ATS is the source of the info. But really it is completely random and has no bearing on this issue.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by Sheeper]



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Sheeper
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So saying the quote is from stormfront is inacurate, it's like a commentor posting a quote from the the New York Times here on ATS and then assuming that ATS is the source of the info. But really it is completely random and has no bearing on this issue.


Perhaps you might like to pull your foot out of your mouth before reading a post 2 posts before yours.

I knew the quote was referenced from SF, and the quoter agrees he/she copied it from SF.

Now, back to the discussion ...

I'm waiting for someone to bring up Obama's "grandmother" again.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by earlywatcher
reply to post by jkrog08
 


the problem is, if this law is irrelevant and doesn't need to be followed, what law does? all laws then become optional. these are the rules we play by. it isn't up to one person to circumvent a law of eligibility just because he finds it inconvenient. of course that's what we are learning about the obama administration. following laws is optional. i'm thinking of the government involvement in the banking industry but even more the government takeover of the auto industry. checks and balances are out the window.


Yes but no one has any concrete evidence to say that O'bama broke the law.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
So let's get this straight.

This issue is from a Neo-Nazi KKK website.

Being brought to the American people by Fox news.

Makes a lot more sense now.

and I'm the dummy?






posted on May, 31 2009 @ 07:33 PM
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Pull my foot out? Image deflection anyone? Your the one derailing this thread with the racist labeling. You knew what you were implying, you never said it was referenced from another site, you plain out said the quote is from stormfront, it is NOT from stormfront, who cares if a quote can be found on some obscure website, the original source should of been touted as where a quote is from. I am completely rational and logical on this, you look like a fool with an agenda and you got called out, so don't turn it on me.

If nothing else, can you people at least answer this one question.

Why has he spent so much time, energy and money into blocking access to his records and Birth certificate, in your opinion? Just answer it, I have yet to see anyone answer this most obvious question.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Sheeper
And the person that brought this up appears to be wrong because I can only find that quote from here. israelinsider.ning.com...


You see,this is the kind of tripe I'm talking about,and yet you can go on SF and find people taking this as the truth.Then you have people going there,retrieving the info just to spread it.

I will accept any view in this thread that is not attuned to my own before I will even think about this having any validity.

Where is the bottom?




posted on May, 31 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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reply to post by Eight
 


So I coudn't find a forum on stormfront that linked to the quote in mention? And that somehow is your ammo against me, these people and the validitaty? Enough with the arrogance allready, the quote is not from stormfront, don't you get that, the quote is from the Israeli Insider!!!!! *Click* vuala you have dissapeared.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by Sheeper]




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