It has been a very long time since I posted anywhere on ATS but this is the only place I thought I could go for what I just experienced.
As I type this it is about 3:27 AM Central. Around 2:55 I decided to turn off the podcast I was listening to and go to sleep. I got comfortable and
started to let my mind wander as I drifted off to sleep. Somewhere along the line I started to visualize a movie I had watched earlier and other
random pop culture stuff, but then I was overwhelmed with a sense of dread.
At first I was still dreaming but the dread just grew and everything went black in my head. I knew I was laying in bed and yet I couldn't open my
eyes or move. Then I heard it.
This low guttural noise like someone gurgling or maybe growling. This went on for about 5-10 seconds and by this time I was terrified. It sounded
like it was in front of me or in any case just close. I tried to move and I couldn't. I tried to open my eyes and I couldn't. All I could muster
was this whimper in my throat. Finally I managed to move my hand to my I-Pod clock which thankfully was right next to my head and press the play
That is when I "woke up" but the time was 3:11. I know it would have taken me much longer to fall into a deep sleep and dream certainly more than
10-15 minutes. I'm certain I was conscious or at least self aware the entire time. Needless to say I'm terrified.
Right after I turned on the light and TV I was hit with this wave of crying. I'm still crying as I type this. I haven't felt this way and I
certainly don't like it.
Now when I did post it was mostly in the War on Terror and Political boards and to be honest I never cared for the "paranormal" but what happened to
me wasn't normal.
For the record I don't do drugs, not on any prescriptions, and I haven't been drinking tonight. I don't know if that was a night terror or what?
All I know is that sound...that sound I can remember it and the hair on my neck stands up and my eyes water. I had to type this now, and I'm
certainly not sleeping any time soon.
Agent, it sounds like you slipped into your sleep with a little more conscious awareness then you usually use.
Pre-sleep provides a transformational focus where by your physical senses invert inward, and start to perceive inward into the dreamstate.
During this process, as you observed with the movie memory, certain thoughts and feelings trigger certain perceived states. As you descend with
consciousness into sleep, audible channels become vivid, as do visual channels.
This is normal if you desire a conscious dream. The feelings, the growling and the entire experience could have simply been a virtual reality
simulation in the form of a dream that you just experienced.
You can enter into sleep with loud bangs, popping sounds, vibrations and humming... all artifacts of emerging dream simulation from this inversion of
Be less frightened and more curious and adventurous. Dreaming is a wonderful extension of your overall conscious experiences.
From mentioning nto being able to move, I'd guess it could have been Sleep Paralysis. A good explanation of SP is from Wikipedia:
"Sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from a REM state, but the body paralysis persists. This leaves the person fully conscious, but unable
to move. The paralysis can last from several seconds to several minutes "after which the individual may experience panic symptoms and the realization
that the distorted perceptions were false"
I've been suffering on and off with it for about a year now, and sometimes I've heard noises, or hallucinated while paralysed.. It put the fear of
god into me, hearing things while not being able to move, and at first I swore I was going crazy, but if you read up on other peoples experiences it
seems to be pretty common. Even searching on here should yield a few good results, I know some people have put their experiences up.
Other than that, I've got no idea what it could be mate.
Part of what you're talking about here, is sleep paralysis. I've experienced it only once.
The Nightmare, by Henry Fuseli (1781) is thought to be one of the classic depictions of sleep paralysis perceived as a demonic visitation.
I was half-dozing on my couch trying to staying awake, and rolled onto my side, and when I closed my eyes, I was still wide awake, but could not move
no matter how much I struggled.
Here's where it gets weird, like the prior comments weren't weird enough, right?
As I am laying there, rolled onto my left side, facing the back of the couch with my eyes closed, I begin hearing doors opening and closing, and
footsteps of hundreds of people, and they were going in and out of every apartment in the two buildings, one of which I live in, like they were
searching for something.
I could hear the footsteps, doors opening and closing, and when I tried visualizing it all, I only saw total black since my eyes were still closed,
but the sounds got a lot clearer.
I asked a friend of mine, a psychic, what this all was, because to me, I interpreted this as I was experiencing an
O.O.B.E., and that all of the footsteps was myself, running in and out of everyone's
apartment within these two buildings, like I was literally walking into their dreams, the doors being their states of consciousness.
She told me, this was an interesting theory, but to her, it was that because of everything I had been experiencing, a lot of work, reading massive
amounts, as well under constant self-made pressure, I was in fact hearing myself "running in too many directions at once".
I think my answer runs somewhere in the middle of both her interpretation as well as mine, because she and I are two totally different people, and she
has told me I have psychic abilities, and while I can understand this, I hesitate in backing up her thoughts on that because of my belief system of
how I was raised in a Christian home.
Here are three "psychic" type threads I have written on here on ATS.
I generally delve deeper into conspiracy, Government, and cover-ups.
Agent47, once you read all of those three threads, let me know if the event happens again, or your mind calms down and you relax.
The way I got myself out of it, and you may laugh, that's fine, is I focused on my bladder, as well as my phallic member, and well, I, became aroused
as Hell, and my hand shifted of it's own volition, to you know where.
I awoke, with my hand holding tightly onto my, um, "joystick".
How shall I say this without breaking the terms and conditions?
I relieved that "tension" I was holding tightly onto, in more ways than one.
Oh yeah, Agent47, I have never imbibed of any sort of narcotics, I detest alcohol, and pretty much a lot of what you've stated about yourself, I do.
There are of course some minor differences, which is to be expected.
Nice avatar, Wolverine is my favorite character, I used his pictures everywhere, and then found Spartan - 117 as a stronger image and
self-representation of who I am and it solidified me in so many ways to be able to focus in all matters.
If you read the definition for sleep paralysis, like I did, Post Traumatic Stress
Disorder symptoms are within all of the defining words and phraseology, which is usually tied to some early childhood stressful situation(s), or
multiple situations in ones early childhood, or teenage years.
If you read the following link, you will see where a majority of mine stems from. Fair warning though, if you want to reply within the thread below,
you need to become a member of the Bully Pulpit Forum, like the ATS'ers like myself are, in a way to debate politically, without partisan
My recommendation for you, for right now, would be to just read what I've posted in there so far, and see if any of that sounds familiar, and come
back here to discuss it, or feel free to U2U me, and we can talk as much as you like.
Spiritual Attacks / Sleep Paralysis (Reclaiming your Life through SSTT Part 1)
Spiritual Attacks / Sleep Paralysis (Reclaiming your Life through SSTT Part 2)
Because of all of my experiences within my lifespan, I can diagnose P.T.S.D. like I was looking over a car that I knew needed some minor mechanical
Do not worry, you are among friends here within ATS, feel free to share.
Sounds like sleep paralysis. It is very scary when you have these types of dreams. The fact that your body is in a natural, semi-paralyzed state will
make it worse.
I used to have night terrors (which is another thread altogether) and when I woke up I was terrified. I would stay in that state for as long as a
half an hour afterwards even though I was awake and obviously not harmed.
Don't worry too much. You did the right thing. Getting your mind onto something else or talking to somebody seemed to be the best way for me to
unwind after a bad one.
Have a hot cup of soup or chocolate or whatever soothes your nerves.
If you have a pet then consider letting them sleep in the room with you as it gives a sense of protection and will help you to not feel so alone.
If you need to, sleep with a light on.
Good luck. Hope you feel better.
Without much more information and possibly an interview it is impossible for me to accurately diagnose what you are suffering from. However, from the
limited information I have it sounds very similar to some of the symptoms of REM sleep disorder. Which could have some severe physical implications
such as doing harm to yourself while in REM sleep. It is not uncommon for someone to get into REM sleep as quickly as you did, typically a person will
go through the sleep cycles 5-7 times every night.
I know this probably isn't much help, but with the amount of information I have, that is all I can personally offer.
Incidentally, you are always paralyzed when in REM sleep.
Yeah ive had this dread, quite a few times, havn't heard a gurgling noise though. horrible feeling as you lay in the dark, but nothing more than
that, i put it down to an overactive mind, thinking about all the stories on here.
That's nothing. The other night I had a lucid dream facing the fact that I will die and I was so afraid of leaving my life and my body. I didn't
want to go into the void. My life and body are like a nice warm blanket and I was so afraid of leaving this world and universe.
Then I woke up. It's been bothering me for 2 days. It was so profound and the thing that scares me is that we are all going to die someday.
I think sometimes just as you fall into sleep, somethings happends, I have had this some times, but clear voices speak short words, and last time it
happend just a week aho, I heard with some kind of robotic distortion effect: we created , then I opened my eyes in wonder, I saw no one and all was
quite, then as I fell to sleep I heard the voice again: Your Sun/son ..
Clear in my head, but I dont think much of it ... I was Bamboozled too...
Greetings ATS members. I stumbled upon your site quite a few months ago. I have been tempted to comment at times, but it was this thread that got me
off of my hiney.
First of all, occasionaly and recently while falling asleep...in that almost asleep period, I would wake up to the sound of a bang. Like something
hard hitting metal. It startles me. I notice my wife wasnt woken up by this loud noise (she will wake up to the sound of a kitten purring 2 cities
over) I get up, check the house and go back to sleep. It almost sounds like a gong, but a duller version. Someone above me here mentioned the
"bang noise" while falling asleep. Id like to research more on this.
Secondly, in regards to the sleeping Paralysis. I have experienced this since I was young. It occurs when I sleep on my back..more so when I am
sleeping (napping) during the way. I have very typical experiences that used to scare the hell out of me. Frozen, can't really speak. In the dream
state I drag myself across the floor, ect. If I focus on moving my hand or rocking from side to side, I come out of it.
After doing some research on the subject, I read various theories. I could be ready to have an out of body experience, be contacted by another life
form, or something otherworldy or metaphysical. Both subjects interest me greatly. I noticed during these events, I would experience a vibration, or
buzzing that would gradually get louder. I think I read someplace that the climax of this vibration would lead somewhere. So, I made it clear to
myself that during the next episode, I would not be scared and I would see where this would take me. The paralysis came and I was aware enough to
ride out the vibration. I remember in that dream state being scared and excited about what was about to happen. Then, something woke me up. Not a
"Thing" Mind you, but I woke up for whatever reason.
I havent had sleeping paralysis since. I just wanted to share my experience and see if anyone else tried to ride out the experience and see what it
led to. Also, anyone know more about what the gong/bell/bang noise is as some of us try to fall asleep?
Now that I am registered I will try to contribute best I can. This is a wonderful group.
I can sort of relate to your story. Unfortunately this happened a while ago so my memory of the experience doesn't feel as accurate now. For the
record, I never believed in the existence of ETs before this, and remember I went to bed that night earlier with the mindset that they did not exist
and sorta posed a challenge to them to prove otherwise. (I was watching some TV program about aliens and believed it was completely fiction.)
Anyway, what happened with me was it was actually early in the morning, I was drifting in and out of sleep. And I am not sure if this was real or
dream, but I felt an extremely strong force pushing down on my chest and I was completely paralysed. I woke up later with a very horrible feeling of
dread and vulnerability that made me very scared.
Either those Aliens taught me a lesson or it was a really bad dream.
As I was reading through the definition, again, after some sleep, of sleep paralysis, I was reminded of the term
"Pusher", so I looked it up, and found one of my favorite episodes of the X-Files.
Have you ever felt like you could do this (bolded part of quote), or that someone in your past may have done this and you felt an uncontrollable urge
to do their bidding?
A man walks through a grocery store, buying lots of carbo-drinks. In the check out line he finds himself surrounded by FBI agents and is arrested.
While being escorted away in a police car, he repeatedly talks about the color cerulean blue. This causes the car driver to not see an approaching
truck of that color, and the police car drives right into it.
This is my favorite set of episodes, because Mulder and Scully almost always get outwitted by Robert Patrick Modell, notice there, three names, anyone
else familiar that ATS'ers remember who had three names...
Lee Harvey Oswald
Pusher, whose name is Robert Patrick Modell is brought to trial but using his skills is able to convince the judge to let him go. The agents look
into Modell's past and find that he applied for the FBI and claims to have been trained in Japan.
Scully thinks he's nothing but a little man who desires to feel big. By writing the word 'PASS' on a piece of paper and putting it in his shirt
pocket, Modell is able to pass security and enter FBI headquarters. He convinces an agent there, Holly, into looking up information on Mulder for him.
When Assistant Director Skinner arrives Modell convinces Holly that Skinner was a man who mugged her and she sprays him with mace. She apologizes
later for the incident, saying that it was as if he was in her head.
Scully is unable to to explain how Modell has his power, but now agrees with Mulder's theory that he can push people into doing whatever he
Agent47, I think, thanks to your thread here, I solved one of the last clues I had been looking into, to solve the entire J.F.K./Lee Harvey
Oswald/Government did it conspiract theory. Since I have been trying to unravel that since I was six years old, and my stepfather said that Oswald's
supposed rifle of choice was the Mannlicher-Carcano, a cheap, piece of
crap Italian made rifle that NEVER could have been fired fast enough to kill John F Kennedy, you just helped me to seal the deal
into all of what I was looking into.
Anything and everything you want to know about your sleep paralysis, or anything else, is at your disposal courtesy of me, if I can answer it.
You see, my step-father was a Marine, and had used the Mannlicher-Carcano before, he said the bolt-action of the receiver, with the wooden-frame of
the body, was way too sloppy, to be an effective assassination weapon for more than one shot, and considering the theories which abound about the
"magic bullet", and the conflicting evidence of reports of more than five to seven shots being heard, depending on which particular theory you've
read on, and I've read them all, then Lee Harvey Oswald was in fact, a patsy/decoy while the rest of the story falls into place, just like I
The man on the grassy knoll, the man in the building adjacent to the Texas School-Book Depository, and the man supposedly and "killed" by the media
for the shooting, Lee Harvey Oswald were all in a semi-triangular configuration.
I now have enough information, evidence, investigation into the J.F.K. asassination, I could potentially convict the entire Warren Commission for
obstruction of Justice after the fact, of the assassination of one of the world's most talked about President's ever.
All of this fits into "programming" through ELF, or extra-low frequency communication.
Agent47, I just added you as a friend on ATS.
Tell me how you feel after listening to this song.
The old "Rome" kills the new "Rome".
Secrets of sleep - Sleep deprivation - Peter Tripp Pt 1 of 2
Secrets of sleep - Sleep deprivation - Peter Tripp Pt 2 of 2
Oooo....dude. I watched the vids and confirmed the feeling of thinking about it being demons in the guy's explanation. They have been after me off
and on for years. After the first time the Lord keeps them so weak and far away it makes them furious and hate me even more. I've been experiencing
some strange things in this apt. for a few years that's just weird! There seems to be some sort of presence here I was thinking this morning could be
a space alien....I'm starting to be suspcious at the demons that may be coming up with new techniques to try and grab me again. Hope the guy gives
his self to GOD and ask for his protection...it's all that ever saved me from Satan.
The first time it was so horrible my first husband was a catholic and he experienced part of the horror with me. He was so frightened he called the
priest at his family's hosp. and he came and then said there was nothing he could do. Most regular priests won't fight demons usually and those that
might have to wait months before he can get permission from higher priests or Vatican. I don't think they do that anymore any place in America.
As I said, I don't go to anyone's churches, but I needed GOD against it...will say a prayer for the fellow.
I sometimes experience this now and then but most of them are not as negative as yours or anyone elses. But i did face a truely frightening sleep
paralyses one night after i just performed a sabbat. A scary person next to my bed and crazy laughter from the shadow and me desperately trying to
move. I succeeded in moving my hand toward it only to wake up afterwrd. Somehow i thought i might have lured something here with our energy, even
though we drew a circle. O.O
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