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I believe religion is souring this entire site, it should be banned

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posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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if a none belief is a belief then that would also mean what you say is?

I do not understand your argument?

Please elaborate please so i can further my own understanding of your views





posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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you just stated, as if anyone who disagrees with your logic is BONKERS


no I said and i will again...

simple question for you : Do you know what put LIFE here? not YOU but LIFE you know the tree, the cat ? the dog?

What did that?

Do you not find that interesting? what LIFE is? what its Function is?



think about it



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger


so please let me be clear in this YOU and ME had NO choice to be here to argue over the semantic of who is right and wrong.

i wonder if trees argue ? maybe? or maybe a tree is just happy to be a tree?



That would be YOUR belief. It is not mine. Have I tried to impose mine on you? Have I even shared what mine is? Have I called you an epic failure because of your belief that I do not agree with?

I think not.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:50 PM
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Why do you bash everyone? You are an angry person. You wouldnt make a good Mod. It isnt polite to behave this way. Since you work in the ATS archives you might consider being a bit more ethical.

Where are you coming from? You have bashed both sides of the discussion.

I speak up because you have not only insulted me but a few of my friends on here.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by wonderworld
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Why do you bash everyone? You are an angry person. You wouldnt make a good Mod. It isnt polite to behave this way. Since you work in the ATS archives you might consider being a bit more ethical.

Where are you coming from? You have bashed both sides of the discussion.

I speak up because you have not only insulted me but a few of my friends on here.


I don't care if you feel insulted. I'm almost certain your feeling of insult comes from your side...not mine. I am not angry. I'm just not backing down. You have decided to call my inability to let your position take precedent in the matter "angry". I don't acknowledge the correctness of that label.

Seriously, grow some skin. The thread called for banning of discussion of groups that have belief systems apparently contrary to yours. Did you think that would go unprotested?

[edit on 5-29-2009 by Valhall]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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So let me get this straight. Correct me if I am wrong though. Silence the opposition because they don't believe in what you do? Did you and Obama "Barry", attend the same school?

Perform a search on tyrants.
Follow with Communism.
End with Socialism and Karl Marx.

I disagree with your view point. Would you like to silence me? You can hit that little ignore button on the side. I am a new user but I can show you where its at if you would like.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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very true and that is why i said its mine as is yours but at least we can understand that we both have them for a reason "unknown" to us both but yet we have them

this is our bond not our disagreement

I hope you can understand that i respect your views as you can respect mine

we can both be wrong and right at the same time




posted on May, 29 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
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very true and that is why i said its mine as is yours but at least we can understand that we both have them for a reason "unknown" to us both but yet we have them

this is our bond not our disagreement

I hope you can understand that i respect your views as you can respect mine

we can both be wrong and right at the same time



We are in violent agreement. You need to understand that I view no one as an "epic failure" in the belief they choose. We are all free moral agents and that allows us all to err in whatever manner we choose. And one thing I am bound to always believe...we all will ALWAYS err. No matter how those errors disagree.

[edit on 5-29-2009 by Valhall]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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I will let you win this argument. Congrats. When you say you are not backing down, that includes everyone on this thread. You are surly dominating the thread with your beliefs, that's fine, as well.

Ashley already explained the banning part.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by wonderworld
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I will let you win this argument. Congrats. When you say you are not backing down, that includes everyone on this thread. You are surly dominating the thread with your beliefs, that's fine, as well.

Ashley already explained the banning part.


What beliefs did I dominate the thread with? The belief no one should be banned because of their spiritual beliefs? Yeah, I'm going to stand by that one until the end.

You mosey on along now and play with your friends.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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I respect your views!



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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agreed but the manner of your post was somewhat one sided against another poster...

You say you are free to voice your view and this is correct but the manner in what you posted "in my view" was insulting to the question that was asked in their view

So it would make it some what hypercritical of the comment directed at the person correct?

And i am sure you will disagree or maybe you wont but i will find out

But respect of other views is the reason for this thread?

Let me point out the topic

"I believe religion is souring this entire site, it should be banned"

Look at this statement? I ? You not me not every other person correct?

so the argument is moot is it not? as you are your own voice ?

ATS is for all voices not just the first letter of the head of the thread topic

I hope you can see you are contradicting yourself




posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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Funny, I have never felt this problem and I am one that always likes to separate religion from non relevant topics. I believe I know of at least one of the moderators you are speaking of in your OP and I can say honestly you don't know what you are talking about. That person has never attempted (to my knowledge) to force someone into believing a certain view. I can kind of understand where you are coming from but I think you are greatly exaggerating it to fit your own needs. Just IMHO.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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I think the majority would like you to mosey on and play with your enemies. Why do you behave like this. Wow. Not nice.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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thank you


second line..

oh hey ill do a third





posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:10 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think it was covered here. I don't think it was ever enforced but hey someone mentioned layin down the law



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:10 PM
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Youre quite welcomed.
There are many interesting views, to say the least.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
reply to post by Valhall
 


agreed but the manner of your post was somewhat one sided against another poster...

You say you are free to voice your view and this is correct but the manner in what you posted "in my view" was insulting to the question that was asked in their view

So it would make it some what hypercritical of the comment directed at the person correct?

And i am sure you will disagree or maybe you wont but i will find out

But respect of other views is the reason for this thread?

Let me point out the topic

"I believe religion is souring this entire site, it should be banned"

Look at this statement? I ? You not me not every other person correct?

so the argument is moot is it not? as you are your own voice ?

ATS is for all voices not just the first letter of the head of the thread topic

I hope you can see you are contradicting yourself



I didn't start the thread...you understand that right? I didn't choose the title of the thread, you understand that right? If you do, then I don't even understand what you're going on about in this post. Because the **I** in question is not me. The **I** in question is one that believes his/her opinion should effect a greater portion of the board members simply because they start a thread that initaites with **I** and ends with **their** opinion.

So why is your claim of hypocrisy leveled at me? I only stand railing against the insane thought one person's disgust with opposing beliefs does not a sense make. You have a problem with that?



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger


so please let me be clear in this YOU and ME had NO choice to be here to argue over the semantic of who is right and wrong.

i wonder if trees argue ? maybe? or maybe a tree is just happy to be a tree?


Have I called you an epic failure because of your belief that I do not agree with?

I think not.


Ah, but you believe he is on the road to hell where ultimately him and many other good folk will spend eternity shrieking , gurgling and screamin in pain for eternity burned in a pit of fire by a 'just' God for not accepting his rule. Kind of makes "epic fail" seem a bit weak huh?



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by contemplator


Ah, but you believe he is on the road to hell where ultimately him and many other good folk will spend eternity shrieking , gurgling and screamin in pain for eternity burned in a pit of fire by a 'just' God for not accepting his rule. Kind of makes "epic fail" seem a bit weak huh?


You're showing your bias here. And your lack of reasoning. I have said nothing of the sort. Nor will I. Militant atheist it appears. At least I can label your "denomination".



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