ATS Infiltrated?...By the Taliban, Extreme Muslims, and Communists!

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posted on May, 29 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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reply to post by Chevalerous
 


But how do you know they are from the USA. They may just say they are to reduce suspicion. Or maybe they do live here among us, or maybe they have just paid our citizens to post this stuff without disclosing what is behind it.




posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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There are a certain type of people who are drawn to conspiracies and enjoy
debating, investigating and discussing those subjects. I am one. That is why
I am here. It doesn't mean that I believe all of them. In fact, if I was hard
pressed to say, I would have to admit that deep down, I don't believe in some of the most popular conspiecytheories. I do believe in life other than on Earth and I do think there are those in the Govt that are trying to keep that fact from us.

Do I think there are people at ATS with an agenda? Yes I do. BUT, I think it
is a very small number. And, you have those who are here just because they
like to stir things up and cause a ruckus. They too are a small number.

In general, I think most people are here to learn, discuss and to have a sense of comradery.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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See your very signature supports my theory.
"We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have communism."



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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In general, I think most people are here to learn, discuss and to have a sense of comradery.


Completely agree. I want to say this with great respect, but the level of pro-American rhetoric is just as annoying as the anti-American.

Lots of us come from parts of the world other then USA. You do have an awesome country, but I can't tell much difference in the mindset of an overly pro or anti American people sometimes.

Cheers
Shane



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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Sorry about the overly american focus in the OP. I apologized for it somewhere in this thread earlier. I am going to try to be better about it in the future.

[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:19 PM
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There are all types of posters. From the US , Russia, UK, blah blah blah. Many have different views. We have Communists, fascists, Socialists, Democrats, Republicans, Independants...etc...etc. To be afraid of confronting the posts the make, if you don't believe in what they say is weak. Understand each point of view only then can you REALLY start to understand how this world works. I will not hate a person because they are Communist nor Socialist nor a supporter of a dictatorship. It is what it is. They have thier views I have mine. I don't agree but I don't think they are going behind my back and injecting people with Commie juice. Breathe. Meditate



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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I would also find it fascinating to talk to someone from the Taliban or someoene with a different political view on fair terms. My theory though is that this is not a fair discussion, but rather a group of people with a hidden agenda. For example what kind of people would really believe there are Reptilians running the world? But yet they convince others that this is true. See how it is not a fair fight because they are scrambling peoples minds and making them waste their lives believing in things that are at best worthy of a good comic book.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Chevalerous
 


But how do you know they are from the USA. They may just say they are to reduce suspicion. Or maybe they do live here among us, or maybe they have just paid our citizens to post this stuff without disclosing what is behind it.


Well If you ask me I think like zeydie here!

On sites like this one you could alway find a small number that have some special agenda, you have some trying to do their best to block some information from getting out, you had others from the political spectrum last fall, smearing & spreading misinformation about the other candidate.

You have informers - disinformers and other smurfs that is smurfing around here behind the curtains - watching!

But I think they are in small numbers of the total members and some are easy to spot after awhile!

Most American that post here know too much about the American society in their ordinary & relaxed way they talk, so I guess most of them are genuine
- so I think you can relax a little!


But there are probaly some really good double agents as well!


Stay frosty! but don't let the paranoia rule you!



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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Hey, I boast about my state too. Everyone does it in some degree. It helps shape our identity.

Flag for you

Don't want to take it off topic, so making a new post here
I was looking for stats here on ATS. Couldn't find them so I'll just ask:

Where is everyone from? Just the country. I'm just curious.

Vote Here

Cheers
Shane



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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Yeah, I believe that the US is on a slow road to communism via socialism.

A lot of people have quotes that agree with their ideologies in their sigs.

But, how does that "support your theory" of infiltration by enemies of the US as
you stated in your opening post? Are you are accusing me of being one?
If not, then I don't get the connection you are trying to make.


[edit on 5/29/2009 by Zaydie]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:35 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I do believe I could be wrong but I am not so sure that I am. I mean the thing that kind of convinces me is that no one could really believe that they can see a giant planet headed for earth and it hasnt already hit us or at the very least there wouldnt be a measurable gravitational effect on some part of the solar system... Its just things like that which keep me wondering if it isnt a ploy to scare people from action or make them think they have no future. That is very dangerous.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:39 PM
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I wasnt accusing you of anything other than being wise.


Your own sig are the words of a communist showing his intention to use agents to manipulate our way of life. Its like Hitler stating what his plans were in Mein Kampf. So it proves my theory by showing that a former USSR leader had that on his mind.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:45 PM
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Ok, I was just a bit confused.

Some here are more rabid in their opinions and theories than others, granted.
It's all good. It's what makes ATS a special blend of all types and genres.



[edit on 5/29/2009 by Zaydie]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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Ahh maybe your right and the paranoia around here has become contagious. Maybe I should go have a drink, a smoke, and relax. So do you think my theory has crossed into insanity?



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Zaydie
 


Ahh maybe your right and the paranoia around here has become contagious. Maybe I should go have a drink, a smoke, and relax. So do you think my theory has crossed into insanity?


No.

Not yet anyway.


Drink and smoke one for me.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Chevalerous
 



Thanks for the advice. I do believe I could be wrong but I am not so sure that I am. I mean the thing that kind of convinces me is that no one could really believe that they can see a giant planet headed for earth and it hasnt already hit us or at the very least there wouldnt be a measurable gravitational effect on some part of the solar system... Its just things like that which keep me wondering if it isnt a ploy to scare people from action or make them think they have no future. That is very dangerous.


But if you think some stories are too outlandish just skip them, or read them for fun as I do!

Sometimes I'm reading the most crazy stuff for fun, killing some spare time! if I find that the subject is interesting.

And I don't think that any planet is coming this way soon!


I like to look into the economy & finance NWO conspiracies!


And some breaking news here are just amazing to read! and when things happen reports are coming in with many links to chose from, I like that!

If you would believe in everything here, you're going nuts in no time!

Take a break! relax in the sun! don't push yourself into information overload!



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:58 PM
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maybe they accused you of doing that because of your thread claiming you were a cohort of the nwo?
If you're tongue-in-cheek, carry on.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:58 PM
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So do you think my theory has crossed into insanity


No dude, you have a long way to go till insanity



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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Well I do try to skip over things.. but then I started to research threads once I realized that this very well could be a LARGE SCALE ploy to dumb down those countries opposed the Taliban or terrorism or communism. Though I do admit that for even one or a whole group of people to be able to manipulate all the smart people at ATS they would have to be some sort of genius.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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Dude,

I'll try and not attack you.

All the things you talk about that can't be true, your dirty dozen and so forth, can you prove, %100, absolutely, unequivocally, beyond any doubt, PROVE they are untrue? That aliens do NOT exist? Can you PROVE that the universe is as you say it is and not the way someone else may believe it is? Can you even prove you exist?

There are billions of people, some of whom are on this site, who have lived different lives than you, experienced different things and they have a much different perspective than you do. This belief of yours that people who believe - or even entertain - opinions that differ from yours are wrong and need to be fixed I find a little bit offensive. You cannot possibly hold all the keys to life, the universe and everything. You cannot know everything.

You could become richer for all the opinions on this site yet you seem to think most of us are just kooks or insane. That, to me, is divisive and seems to be contrary to your beliefs. Why even bother with a conspiracy site? I ask in all seriousness, why even post here? Why not let the kooks have their little corner of the internet and you can have the rest? Why even bother if most of us are just too stupid to understand?

Sorry, got a little derailed. I'm not saying aliens are real but completely discounting the fact when there is so much "evidence" out there is enough, for me at least, to put them in the "I Don't Know" file.

If there are aliens, bickering amongst ourselves like we are, in this thread, in real life, amongst countries and governments and even in all of our daily lives about whatever nonsensical topic - even valid debates LOL - those guys up there must think we are Comedy Central. They are laughing their (insert appropriate alien anatomical part here) off.





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