Sotomayors 'La Raza' called Latino KKK

Originally posted by OhZone
" Gutierrez, an open borders advocate who founded La Raza Unida, has stated, "We have an aging white America ... They are dying. ... They are sh---ing in their pants with fear! I love it! ... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."

[edit on 29-5-2009 by OhZone]

I googled this. Gutierrez never said this. The only place I could find it was on White Supremist backed sites....which is maybe why you didn't source it?

It originated with a speech he gave in California, but the complete transcript and audio states none of the above.

For HOW LONG will ATS allow it's forums to be a platform for Hate Groups to spout their lies and Propaganda?

Originally posted by OhZone


****Uh, repressed? Did you mean oppressed?
If they didn’t come here in the first place, they wouldn’t be oppressed.

Why don’t they put their energies to making Mexico a better place?
Because they are being funded by some of our very own elites who are hell-bent on taking the US down; all the way down.

So why should we want one of theirs in a high office in the US?
Well, why not? We have a whole crowd of subversive duel citizens running our government now don’t we?

Yes, pardon me, I meant oppressed, not repressed. Typo.

You do realize that "they" had that land first right? So, if WE hadn't come here in the first place, they wouldn't be oppressed. You had that backward.

Perhaps the fact that the country of Mexico is kept in third world status by the US could play a large part in why they cant better their country.

I think you have fallen victim of propaganda. I hate to throw out accusations, but using the terms "them" and "their kind" is blatant racism, and is playing into the hands of those who wish to keep us all separated.

I wonder, do you feel the same way about groups such as the PNAC, which is heavily white and pushed an agenda of white western civilization worldwide? Because we allowed those people to run our country for 8 years.

Oh wait, their white, so it's okay.

Now, Ive said it before, but I am of the belief that no person has a right to call any other person illegal purely because of which side of an imaginary line they stand on. I know I am by far in the minority on this belief, but it will not change.

The rhetoric will not sway me.

The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) is a non-profit and non-partisan advocacy group in the United States. It is not to be confused with La Raza Unida. Its stated focus is on reducing poverty and discrimination, and improving opportunities for Hispanics.

The IDIOT has the two groups confused! As does many of the press articles I am seeing. I know the newspapers are in financial trouble, but did they fire their researchers?

The NCLR is NOT the same as La Raza United.

She is a member of the National Council of La Raza

en.wikipedia.org...
The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) is a non-profit and non-partisan advocacy group in the United States. It is not to be confused with La Raza Unida.

La raza Unida ...not the group she belongs to...was the group founded by José Ángel Gutiérrez. Whole different group, history etc.

Two completely DIFFERENT groups.

WOW... I wonder how long it will take the Media to figure out this F*** up?

Everything from the far right should always be assumed to be BS until researched.




[edit on 29-5-2009 by maybereal11]

reply to post by maybereal11


You know, I didn't even consider that all these people were confusing the two. Makes more sense now why everyone on here is defending the comparisons.

Great pickup!

reply to post by maybereal11


You're right. National Council of The Race sounds far less racist than [color= Pink]The Race United.

Myself, a non-white son of immigrants strongly against immigrants who cut into the line and overpopulation of my birth country - the United States.

[edit on 29-5-2009 by Dbriefed]

Here we go..and they start to figure it out ...what an idiot.

The BS from the far right is exhuasting.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

TANCREDO: If you belong to an organization called La Raza, in this case, which is, from my point of view anyway, nothing more than a Latino -- it's a counterpart -- a Latino KKK without the hoods or the nooses. If you belong to something like that in a way that's going to convince me and a lot of other people that it's got nothing to do with race. Even though the logo of La Raza is "All for the race. Nothing for the rest." What does that tell you?

SANCHEZ: Alright. We're not talking about -- we're not talking about La Raza --

TANCREDO: She's a member! She's a member of La Raza!


The only problem with Tancredo's claim is that "All for the race. Nothing for the rest." is not La Raza's motto. Instead, the group's motto is the utterly uncontroversial "Strengthening America by promoting the advancement of Latino families."

The phrase that Tancredo incorrectly links to Sotomayor is, in fact, found only in the founding documents of a wholly different group to which Sotomayor has no known affiliation.

Further clarity on the lies...cough...I mean confusion...
www.abovetopsecret.com...




[edit on 29-5-2009 by maybereal11]

[edit on 29-5-2009 by maybereal11]

My 6th grade teacher once said to never talk about these three things: race, religion, and politics. I'm starting to agree...
lol

reply to post by maybereal11


"If you belong to an organization called La Raza, in this case, which is, from my point of view anyway, nothing more than a Latino"

What!? Does he mean that every person that's Latino is part of La Raza?

once again it goes back to race to divide us all. why cant we just be the human race but I guess we are far from still understanding.maybe this is part of the Greater plan of bringing in the Amero. its seems like it. If we really wanted to control the borders we would of done it.

I can't stand it and I have to get in my 2 centavos...... his is just one more of those frantic, paranoid, pro white people, anti Mexican, fear mongering, RACIST,threads . Get over it. They are people that are native to the South West U.S. and were here first..... There is nothing to fear from them unless you try to treat them badly, then you had better believe that you will have a fight on your hands..... Some of the best Marines I ever met were Mexican Americans and they have always proved that in every war since WWI.

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You are mistaking La Raza with La Raza Unida which is a political party.

Look it up there is a differance between the two.

Maybereal, the source for the quote was listed on page 1 with the OP post.
I was merely re quoting.

Cautiouslypesimistic:
I think the Apache and a few others also claim the land. So are you proposing that we give it all back and return to Europe? (which has now been invaded by Africans and Pakistani & Indians etc.

It should be obvious to any intelligent person that my reference to “them” and “their kind” is merely use of ordinary Pronouns. Any other interpretation is in the mind of the reader.
If you see racism, it is because you created it.

I think you are the one who has fallen for the propaganda - the Politically Correct Propaganda.
You see “racism” everywhere you possibly can.

Everyone is racist, sorry, it is the truth. Its part of our monkey nature. When you see another tribe that is not your own, they may look different, they may act different than your tribe, so therefore you see them separately. Every mammal on Earth does this, including humans, you cannot escape it, no one can. To deny it makes you a fool and a liar. Try if you will to deny it, but deep down inside everyone is racist to some degree.

Which 8 years was pushing white civilization?
I see nothing pro-white about PNAC.
Race mixing has been promoted heavily for a long time now.
The 1965 immigration reform was definitely anti-white.
So what are you talking about?

Thank you for making it clear that you are a N W O shill.
Open borders indeed! Being a 3rd world foreigner somehow gives people a right to come here and use our resources and to suck the American middle class dry?

Dav25, NO, we can never be just the human race.
There is no such thing. We are the Human SPECIES.
Until we have all interbred, destroying all the unique original races and become mutts there will always be a divide between us. And when we all become mutts, there will still be divisions.

There will always be one group versus another. It’s the human way. It is the basis of all our games.

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"Blah blah ...La Raza has done a lot of good things...blah blah"

Not for ME they don't. It's more like AGAINST me.

Explain this: "For the Race, Everything; Outside the Race, Nothing."

Explain this:
Gutierrez, an open borders advocate who founded La Raza Unida, has stated, "We have an aging white America ... They are dying. ... They are sh---ing in their pants with fear! I love it! ... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~

"The Race" needs to "race" back home and get the f*ck outta my country. They are a
troublemaking thug group. The fact that you support this disgraceful bunch of
racists says a lot about you.

Raza Unida is also a prison/street gang and has links with other organized crime groups, including La Eme, the Mexican Mafia.

The RU prison gang was formed in 1993 within the Texas prison system. A highly organized group with specific rules and regulations, the RU demands loyalty from their membership and participation in the criminal activities of the gang including its primary illegal activity to generate money to support the gang – narcotics trafficking.

houston.fbi.gov...

Originally posted by OhZone

Cautiouslypesimistic:
I think the Apache and a few others also claim the land. So are you proposing that we give it all back and return to Europe? (which has now been invaded by Africans and Pakistani & Indians etc.

It should be obvious to any intelligent person that my reference to “them” and “their kind” is merely use of ordinary Pronouns. Any other interpretation is in the mind of the reader.
If you see racism, it is because you created it.

I think you are the one who has fallen for the propaganda - the Politically Correct Propaganda.
You see “racism” everywhere you possibly can.

Everyone is racist, sorry, it is the truth.

Which 8 years was pushing white civilization?
I see nothing pro-white about PNAC.
Race mixing has been promoted heavily for a long time now.
The 1965 immigration reform was definitely anti-white.
So what are you talking about?

Thank you for making it clear that you are a N W O shill.
Open borders indeed! Being a 3rd world foreigner somehow gives people a right to come here and use our resources and to suck the American middle class dry?

Wow. Where to even begin.


Go back and look at the previous conversations. Which one of us was claiming racism, which one wasn't? Yet I'm looking for it? Come on now, you can do better.

In one sentence you say: "You see racism everywhere you possibly can" (again, untrue, as I'm the one arguing these things aren't racist), and in your very next sentence you say "Everyone is racist".

How can I even keep up with that kind of contradictory flip-flop?

If you do not think the PNAC is promoting white dominance, you know nothing about them. Go read their reports, and get back to me. I can't even start with that if you haven't done the research.

If you are worried about the middle class, perhaps you ought to look within our boarders first.

Finally, don't even start with this NWO shill garbage. If that's the best you have, please, just don't even try to debate me anymore. I only deal with those capable of thought beyond "You disagree with me, therefore you are an (Insert any number of groups here) shill.

Pathetic.

[edit on 5/29/2009 by cautiouslypessimistic]

Originally posted by Valaroga
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic

 

"Blah blah ...La Raza has done a lot of good things...blah blah"

Not for ME they don't. It's more like AGAINST me.

Explain this: "For the Race, Everything; Outside the Race, Nothing."

Explain this:
Gutierrez, an open borders advocate who founded La Raza Unida, has stated, "We have an aging white America ... They are dying. ... They are sh---ing in their pants with fear! I love it! ... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~

"The Race" needs to "race" back home and get the f*ck outta my country. They are a
troublemaking thug group. The fact that you support this disgraceful bunch of
racists says a lot about you.

Never said I support them, said they aren't the same as the KKK. And they arent.

But, as has already been pointed out here multiple times, perhaps you ought to go back and look at the group you are quoting.

It's the wrong one, friend.

reply to post by Valaroga


How exactly are we taking your resources? We come here to work? We buy stuff here? We don't steal..We live by your rules...What the hell makes you think that EVERY Mexican is bad? There are alot of bad people in EVERY race as well as there are alot of good people in EVERY race...

~Deny Ignorance

[edit on 29-5-2009 by muzik]

Once the Obama administration has control over all three branches of government it will not matter what any of you think about it any more.

And to think, this one was sold as being one of Obama's most "moderate" picks for the supreme court.

The road to socialism with a mix of fascism and Marxism will be sold to the brain dead American idolized people as the only solution, and they will fall for it.

Sotomayor will eventually be confirmed, in large part by the MSM efforts to sell her very "compelling personal life story" over the political criticisms.

She is just another brick in the wall.

Originally posted by Valaroga
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic

 

"Blah blah ...La Raza has done a lot of good things...blah blah"

Not for ME they don't. It's more like AGAINST me.



"The Race" needs to "race" back home and get the f*ck outta my country. They are a
troublemaking thug group. The fact that you support this disgraceful bunch of
racists says a lot about you.

Congratulations, this may be the most asinine, narcissistic post I have ever seen on this board.

Are you really that full of yourself that all you care about is what helps you?

Also, not sure how you came to the conclusion that it's your country, but, guess what, it's partly mine too. And I'm okay with them being here.

What now?

I'm on cautiouslypessimistic's side on this one....