Originally posted by OhZone
Fraterormus, your grandfather sired 54 children!?
With only 4 different women?
That would be 17 children for each of them.
Sounds bit far fetched to me. Is the 54 a typo?
Actually it was a typo. The 54 children part was correct, but it was 5 women. (For an average of 11 children per wife!)
My grand-mother had 13 children with him, of which my father was the first-born. My grand-father told them that he was a traveling salesman, so he was
gone a lot, often for long periods of time, but he always sent more than enough money every month to cover everything his family needed.
Turns out, he was just moving between his multiple families, and none of them knew about the others until one of his wives got suspicious and tracked
down where he was actually spending his time when he was away from them.
Apparently he had made millions in Cattle Ranching in his youth, or it may he may have inherited it from his father who made millions in Cattle
Ranching, but regardless he didn't work at all, and just traveled between families, using the traveling salesman job as a cover to explain his long
absences from each.
Once my grand-mother was contacted by one of his other wives and found out about the other families, she booted my grand-father to the curb and we
never heard from him again (last I heard, that's what the others did as well).
Unfortunately, my entire family is renown for it's philandering through the generations and my father and I both are the ridicule of family jokes
because we only sired 1 child each while my aunts and uncles and cousins all had full families of 7 or more children each.
Originally posted by OhZoneIt is cases like this which will help to bring about mandatory sterilization laws. Maybe that is why it is
getting so much press; to conditon hte public to the need for such laws.
I fear that you are perhaps right. It is one thing for society to stigmatize those who have multiple children or children conceived out of wedlock,
however, it's another thing altogether to consider sterilization. I personally don't believe that any person, or group of persons, has the right to
determine who should or should not be sterilized. The Nazis did that. Those who learned anything from the past realize how that is wrong in so many
However, removing tax breaks for more than 2 children or even penalizing those with more than 2 children, I would be willing to consider as a viable
Casting shame on those who procreate beyond what their means to support, I'm all for. Public humiliation and social estrangement of those who have
become a burden on society, and that's acceptable.
Mandatory Sterilization, however, is where I draw the line and will not tolerate, in good conscience.