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Topic started on 28-5-2009 @ 12:52 PM by JanusFIN
Personally I have hoped to find this kind of thread from ATS... Like we have had here in Gaza Op, Swineflu, and many others developing situations - UPDATES & LATEST - So its possible to make easy and fast overlook to recent news and analysis around the world - also read those very interesting ATS members point of views, discussions from ongoing media focus&hotspot...

I hope you join here with your posts and findings - so we can offer centralized quality to this forum - and save others "whos not so interested" from huge float of headlines coming now from Korean peninsula.

...So - Lets see where this Korean crisis is going - or is it just "psy-op" - "false flag" or real trigger to Asian, even catalyst for fast escalating international crisis... My opening post is from situation now by MSM Reuters:

U.S., South Korea raise military alert on North


Thu May 28, 2009 8:48am EDT
SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea and the United States raised the military alert level for the peninsula on Thursday after the communist North warned the truce ending the Korean War was dead and it was ready to attack.

www.reuters.com...

U.S., Japan Want to Cut North Korean Financial Ties
www.bloomberg.com...

Why Obama can't be soft on North Korea
www.csmonitor.com...

“We are talking about conventional war in Korea”
www.russiatoday.com...

I RECOMEND ALSO THESE QUALITY THREADS OPENED HERE IN ATS:

North Korea to be attacked; U.S. Nuclear first strike "likely" - Trustable info?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

N. Korea: No longer bound by 1953 truce
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Lets keep motions down - personal attacks ignored - focus on facts and lets stay in topic!

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:11 PM by JanusFIN
I think we will get busy coming 24 hours... Who wants to sleep next night? UN is now making its resolution about North Korea... And alarming news are dropping every minute - this is starting to go very interesting! (Scary too)

AFP: US should consider military options against N Korea, Perry
WASHINGTON (AFP) — The United States should consider a range of coercive measures against North Korea, including possible military action, for diplomacy to have a chance of success, former US defense secretary William Perry said Thursday.

www.google.com...

U.S., South Korea put militaries on high alert
www.ctv.ca...

North Korea Standing By Their Threats
www.myfoxla.com...

RUSSIA IS AGAINST!!! ??? - Woah!

Russia demands 'patience' on N Korea amid war fears
The Kremlin, in its latest statement, has opposed the "language of sanctions" against North Korea over its nuclear tests.

www.presstv.ir...

- "The Great Game" is starting to heat! - Waiting Chinese response, maybe united SCO statenment, which are very rare and difficult to get...

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:14 PM by Vitchilo
US, UN studying possible sanctions against NKorea

That would piss off NK...

No major NKorean troop movements: US official

Hopefully it will stay that way... But NK have undergrounds tunnels and already have what they need in the mountains... ARTILLERY.

No one in their right mind think that NK have a shot at invading the South and taking over Seoul.

NK is powerless. They cannot do a thing unless they want to die. And Kim Jong Il loves more power than dying. But of course there's the remote chance he would launch an attack because he's gonna die anyway, but hopefully some generals would do a coup if it were to happen.

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:21 PM by octotom
reply to post by Vitchilo



NK is powerless. They cannot do a thing unless they want to die. And Kim Jong Il loves more power than dying. But of course there's the remote chance he would launch an attack because he's gonna die anyway, but hopefully some generals would do a coup if it were to happen.

I don't think North Korea realizes it's powerless though. I think Il thinks he's a superpower on rate with the US, since he has nuclear weapons.

I don't know about a coup. I remember hearing on CNNInternational yesterday that the NKorean military removed people what wanted to start a coup.


reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:24 PM by Solomons
reply to post by octotom



I wouldn't say being able to kill double digit millions of people *powerless* but hey thats me...And good thread janus,best if everything is in one thread.Although i personally believe this whole scenario will die down within a week.

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:27 PM by JanusFIN
reply to post by Vitchilo



From your post,
"With respect to North Korea and their activities, this is something that the United States government is clearly monitoring."


What is situation with US satelites above North Korea - and other surveillance systems now? What is the speed and accuracy for developing information that US command can get from that closed country? - Is there AWACS or US carriers near the country? -- Can you, or anyone give us information about US true capability to monitor situation on the ground by surveillance?


reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:38 PM by JanusFIN
reply to post by octotom



Asian people are just amazing in their loyality towards their leaders. I have lived 4 yrs in Asia and I have saw that "Kamikaze Mentality" from closest possible range in Thailand Crisis.

Everyone can remember Japanese brave young soldiers, and that mentality is not "hoax information" from history. I have personally followed half an year North Korean "news" broadcast in my countryhouse in Thailand.

Its amazing what can be brainwashing in total scale - and it has continued for decades without a break. North Korean people are truly fighting against worst satan above the earth when they see US flags in their sights...

You guys really should have seen those every day news in NK news: ( Pics did follow like this in official reports )

Bush - "Death" - Bush - "explosion" - Bush - "slaughtering" - Bush - "Marines" - Bush...

From evening to another, and that was only just little over year ago!


reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:39 PM by lighter78
reply to post by JanusFIN



For those who are keeping track, it appears there are 6 AEGIS vessels, 3 US and 3 Japanese, involved in the naval ballistic missile defense tracking and intercept capability deployed off North Korea. There are also an undetermined number of additional naval assets without BMD from Japan, South Korea, the United States, and Canada operating in the region.


Link


Hopefully they are watching like hawks, would be nice to hear what China and Russia both think of the situation, i'll have to read more.



reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:41 PM by octotom
reply to post by detachedindividual



What's it like in other countries, is mainland Europe discussing this at all?


Not here in Germany. They're discussing who is going to buy Opel 24/7, with a little bit of the weather thrown in.


reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:47 PM by JanusFIN
reply to post by detachedindividual



Thanks from asking - In our MSM in Finland, which is not only supporting blackout in every other hotspot of the earth ( Swineflu, Georgia, Iran, Israel ) its also reporting North Koreas as "3rd line news" - without close monitoring.

My fellow citizens are totally out of important news from so many issues - this blackout about NK is just in line of total silence of almost everything... Very scary thing in general.

"Britney Spears - Dog bite a child - Idols Stars - Total crap in breaking headlines here too..."

- Thank god for internet and ATS!


reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:47 PM by Solomons
reply to post by parrallel



Nope,not really...they do have relatively large mineral deposits though i think.Like i said in my previous post,this will die down.Its not going to go anywhere.China and Russia will be having behind the scenes talks and will reign N.korea in before anything even remotely comes close to war.

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 01:57 PM by JanusFIN
reply to post by Solomons



I will be also very, very suprised if this situation goes hot. This crisis as open harcore engagements doesnt fit the big picture in my eyes - and I have seen all the signs from Psy-Op and False Flag in here... But - we will see that soon.

But what this will educate to us all -s the real situation in East-West diplomacy. Recent weeks has been full of news about weakining and even hostile relations growing between SCO and NATO... This situation will put everything to table, and I am eager to see what is stance now, when there is not those two fighting each others - but third party opposing those both.

If NATO-SCO can unite now - it will give us hint what will happen when Israel makse its move in middle east - and what is expected in "The Great Game"... Absolutely this is crisis witch is important to learn.

Worlds greatest chess is involved here - does it cause human sacrifices is soon about to see. Lets hope this will calm down - and only Multipolarism is at winners side, and this will not help NWO to strenghten its agenda.


reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 02:02 PM by JanusFIN
We have get already some news that Russia is opposing hard sanctions, now we get first news that China is at same line with them,

So - SCO seems to be against UN tough sanctions against North Korea...

Chinese Grow Vexed by Pyongyang's Acts
BEIJING -- China appears ready to support modest sanctions against North Korea in response to its nuclear test Monday, but while Beijing is showing increasing impatience it doesn't appear ready to support punishment that could threaten the stability of its neighbor.

online.wsj.com...

US, UN studying possible sanctions against NKorea
www.indopia.in...

US, SKorea militaries gird for NKorean provocation

Seoul moved a 3,500-ton destroyer into waters near the Koreas' disputed western maritime border while smaller, high-speed vessels were keeping guard at the front line, South Korean news reports said. The defense ministry said the U.S. and South Korean militaries would increase surveillance activities.

Pyongyang, meanwhile, positioned artillery guns along the west coast on its side of the border, the Yonhap news agency said. The Joint Chiefs of Staffs in Seoul refused to confirm the reports.

www.google.com...

- WTF - In this situation, South Korean ex president makes suicide? REALLY?

South Koreans mourn ex-president who committed suicide
www.nwasianweekly.com...

- Nuke the nature?

Check out UNESCO'S newest biosphere reserve in North Korea
www.scientificamerican.com...

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 02:29 PM by JanusFIN
This suicide of Ex-President of South Korea is very strange, something to remember for possible future revealings... Timing is - "There is no coincidences in politics" ... So was it to silence the one who knew, or he oppose the future decissions? Just thoughts...

Former South Korean president leaves suicide note
www.scrippsnews.com...

News from UN!

Draft UN resolution condemns N.Korea nuclear test


UNITED NATIONS, May 28 (Reuters) - A draft resolution being circulated among key U.N. Security Council members would strongly condemn North Korea's nuclear test and urge U.N. member states to immediately enforce previously approved sanctions against Pyongyang.

The council "condemns in the strongest terms the nuclear test conducted by (North Korea) on 25 May 2009 in flagrant violation and disregard of its relevant resolutions" and "calls upon all member states immediately to enforce the measures that were put in place by resolution 1718," said the draft, which was obtained by Reuters on Thursday.

The preliminary draft was prepared by Japan and the United States. It will be discussed by the permanent council members, Japan and non-council member South Korea later on Thursday, a U.N. diplomat said.

www.forexyard.com...

- Someones are happy about this crisis...

Oil prices jump above $65; first time for 2009
www.news-herald.com...

- Theories are growing for reasons and timing...

June 4 the Reason for North Korean Nuclear Test
www.theepochtimes.com...

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