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Originally posted by habu71
reply to post by trebor451
I have not put forth an opinion about why or how much the Pentagon air defense system did or did not react, because I do not know enough personally about the system.
Originally posted by Skyline666
Is it 100% FACT, that The Pentagon had an air defense system on site before 9/11?
Interview 7/14/06: Interviewer: Do you have any theory about how a Boeing 757 could have hit such a secure building without any anti-aircraft defenses being activated or any warning alarms sounded?
Gallop: I have thought about this very question numerous times. And then I realized I needed to rephrase the question. The real question is what is the probability or likelihood that no anti-aircraft defense, warning alarms or additional security mechanism functioned on that particular day?
And then we need to think how likely is it then there was a glitch in all the security mechanisms, anti-aircraft defense and warning alarms?
At 8:56, the blip of Flight 77 vanished from the radar screens of Indianapolis Center, the responsible ATC facility, and at the same time radio communication was lost. This is a well known and well confirmed fact. Just take a look at the ATC transcript:
The controllers thought it had crashed and submitted their assessment to other ATC centers, FAA headquarters and American Airlines. This caused the top AA management to believe that Flight 77 crashed into the South Tower - they believed it until the Pentagon strike! There were also rumors going around that a plane crashed near the Ohio-Kentucky border (as confirmed in Richard Clarke's "Against all enemies"), which is exactly the area where Flight 77 vanished (take a look at the Flight Explorer animation in the transcript link).
For sure, the controllers activated primary radar as soon as they lost Flight 77 to look for him, but this measure was obviously not successful. Flight 77 was not detected by any controller until it was picked up at 9:32 by Dulles TRACON controllers. (The only man who knew its position at 9:25 was Norman Mineta...)
For someone who's aware of Operation Northwoods this stinks of a plane swap: Flight 77 crashed or landed somewhere near the Ohio-Kentucky border, and the plane that was detected by the Dulles controllers was not Flight 77.
Originally posted by habu71
...yes, the Pentagon does have significant air defense capability, as well as radar capability.
Is anyone aware of anyone officially questioning the SECDEF about why the pentagon was so vulnerable on that day?
Suddenly the plane changes
a) the altitude (second line, first number including arrow for climbing or descending):
one moment, it is at 31200 ft., descending
the next moment, it is at 35000 ft., climbing
b) the speed (second line, second number):
one moment, it is 476 mph
the next moment, it is 458 mph
c) the estimated arrival time (fourth line):
one moment, it is 1:21 p.m.
the next moment, it is 1:16 p.m.
2) Because of this, we cannot be sure that any subsequent analysis of the FDR data indeed corresponded to the actual planes in question
3) Other research, such as that from Craig Ranke and the Northside Flight Path, indicates that the FDR data may have indeed been tampered with or false
4) There is no conclusive evidence to show that the FDRs analyzed by the NTSB were that of the 9/11 alleged planes
Originally posted by weedwhacker
AS TO #3 --- Craig Ranke is increasingly becoming debunked.
As to the rest, you might try reading through the thread more, as I believe your questions have been covered.
It's not Craig's fault or invention that the testimonies came back as they did, severely contradicting the OS, FDR data, 84 RADES data, light pole claims and ultimately, the AA77 impact claims.