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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
And now this!
Not many troops were part of this shameful act that has been going on for how many years again? They know this is happening, people who say support foreign occupation(troops abroad) still say it despite innocent troops staying under this corrupt umbrella. They are innocent, but they still stay active.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
What if a killer was an employee of a mob gang, if he knew of the horrible things the mob gang did shouldn't he split?
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Still many people have a thinking like: "I don't agree with the war whatsover but I still support those prolonging the war(soldiers)" makes no sense to me. These are people stuck in a paradox.
Originally posted by KingPen
What is it that you would suggest the individual soldier do? Go AWOL? Now there is an effective solution....ummm....not really.
Originally posted by KingPen
Likelihood is that the "mob gang" would do whatever it took to ensure that he would not "split". Which creates a perfect parallel to the legally binding oath that soldiers take under enlistment.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
To say that the individual soldier is prolonging the war is akin to suggesting that each soldier has the ability to book a Delta Airlines flight back to the US.
Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by UrsusMajor
You were responding directly to a post i was part of, I can't speak for what modern said or meant, only myself. I was referring to you saying that i was blaming soldiers, or disrespecting them...you won't find any post of mine doing either. I fully support soldiers who really understand where their duty and loyalty should be, and who are willing to recognize when they are being used as tools for evil...
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by jd140
For those saying that you haven't seen pics yet
the statement is almost irrelevant ....
This is a telegraph article, they interviewed people, but you want to see pics.
Ok fine, let's say you do. You will still support the same thing now right?'
So why even mention it?
Rape was an agenda, it wasn't a few bad apples!
"White House denies report on rape photos"
The White House is pushing back against a British press report claiming the latest round of detainee photos -- the ones they're not releasing -- contain images of rape.
"None of the photographs in question depict the images described in the article," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. "Again, I -- I think if you do an even moderate Google search you're not going to find many of these newspapers and truth within, say, 25 words of each other."
President Barack Obama's administration strongly denied a British report on Thursday that images of apparent rape and sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners are among photographs that it is trying to prevent being made public.
In unusually forceful terms, the Pentagon attacked the report in the Daily Telegraph newspaper while the White House went so far as to cast doubt on the accuracy of the British press in general.
The Telegraph quoted retired U.S. Army Major General Antonio Taguba as saying the pictures showed "torture, abuse, rape and every indecency." Taguba conducted an investigation in 2004 into abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Telegraph had shown "an inability to get the facts right."
"That news organization has completely mischaracterized the images," he told reporters. "None of the photos in question depict the images that are described in that article."
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs went further.
"I think if you do an even moderate Google search you're not going to find many of these newspapers and truth within, say, 25 words of each other," he said.
Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Something about this makes absolutely zero sense.
I started thinking about this yesterday. The fact this was documented in such a manner makes zero sense.
[snip]
None of it makes any sense.
The pictures that havn't been released are far worse than rape. The CID report describes things that remind me of the film Hostel, including weird neo nazi crap.
It personally makes me absolutely disgusted. Part of it feels demonic and clearly evil.
There are unimaginable horrors going on in dark places and it is clearly insane.
Originally posted by UrsusMajor
My response was to this part of your post:
I have YET to see anybody treating soldiers poorly, besides the very government you fight for, as modern said...
I have no intention of responding to the agenda driven innuendo you added at the end of this last post.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'
... an American soldier apparently raping ...
... photographs are said to depict sexual assaults ...
... Another apparently shows a female prisoner ...
Originally posted by 27jd
Yeah, my agenda is to state my valid opinion as an American citizen and a human being, online for others to validate and inflate my esteem, just like everybody else. We all get mad when others disagree, whatever. But I won't let you compare me to people who throw things at soldiers, who don't even exist anymore...
Originally posted by UrsusMajor
This is calling every soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan a traitor. You are entitled to your opinion. When you use it to call law abiding soldiers traitors, I will compare you to whoever I want.
Google "Hanoi Jane". Friend of yours?
Don't blame all of our soldiers for a few sickos among them. There are sickos among every group and the few sickos do not define the entire group.