Originally posted by Netchicken
Oh dear, I can see that we are not going to find a meeting on this.
The primary issue is NOT the A&E bit, its that you ascribe characteristics to God that he doesn't have.
You have painted him as a manipulative liar, who doesn't care for his creations but plays sadistic mind games on them. On the other hand you have
protrayed satan as a truth teller, freeing people from their maipulative God.
I have not painted God as anything at all. I have, however, pointed out aspects of the LORD God
that are commonly ignored. I have not
mentioned satan in my posts either, but I dont think anything I have said about the serpent is errant. I have left out the sugary assumptions
typically added to the story, hoping it might be seen from a different perspective, but that is all.
In such a situation there appears to be no true discussion until the basic attributes of the two entities are established.
This is what I was hoping someone would notice. Genesis is told from the perspective of the ancient Hebrews. The story of the Annunaki is told from
the perspective of the ancient Sumerians. Yet both accounts are remarkabley similar. The biggest difference is the characterization of Enki
(symbolized by a serpent) as the benefactor of man instead of the deceiver. Since I can find no reference to the serpent in Paradise being a liar or
deceiver, I see no reason to assume that it was. I also can't help but notice that in Genesis 1, God
creates the male and female at the same
Genesis 1:26 And God
said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness
: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:
Then in Genesis 2, the LORD God creates Eden and makes Adam to care for it, but Eve is not made until after everything else. For some unexplained
reason, the LORD God isn't sure what kind of mate would be suitable for Adam.
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God
formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a
Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed
Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them] unto Adam to see what
he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that [was] the name thereof.
Genesis 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help
meet for him.
Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Now the typical Genesis defense of the dual accounts of the creation of man/Adam, is that the first time was a summary and the second time was
detailed. I hope to offer an alternative to that assumption. That the LORD God and God are two separate entities, and that the LORD God may not have
been as benevolent and loving as he is believed to be. In contrast, maybe the serpent was not the epidomy of evil, as it is portrayed.
If you only read the Bible without taking into account any other related ancient writings, I feel, you are only getting part of the real story. If
you consider the Genesis account and Sumerian account together, they compliment and start to clarify each other's inconsistencies.
I challenge those who are truly seeking answers, to read them both, in light of each other. (If you have already set your mind on one specific
theory, and reject all other possibilities, then you are not interested in being objective and this is nothing more than a blind faith discussion. )