There is many...so so many theroies, of what is going to happen in 2012 its getting rather funny.
the main 4 are

1.we all die
2.a spirtual awakening
3.aliens come back to visit
4.nothing

lets indulge ourselves into each subject and ask ourselves WHY?

| | | 1.WE ALL DIE.

well lets face it, humans are literally the pu**y's of the animal planet. EVERYTHING, we literally look at EVERYTHING, and for some reason we "FEAR IT". We for some reason have to figure it out, KNOW IT, understand it, and then manipulate it, making our ego's inside feel as if we are god.
If we dont understand something, CANT make sense of it, and are "in the dark", then we dismiss it as evil, and something harmful towards us, our species, and as a whole.
This is true on almost every level.
"this women knows about medicine, HE MUST BE A WITCH!!!"

"how dare you say he earth is round, KILL HIM!"

just a couple examples of a humans ignorance. If we dont understand it, we are afraid and terrified, and when our minds are confused, and cant come to a logical answer, fear steps in and takes over.
So the simple fact of why we think something bad is going to happen? because it is the UNKNOWN fear, that is supplying this.
I do think in the mind of science, that something HUGE, can happen to earth killing most of us.
I was thinking about the gravitational pull of us coming into the center. What would the effects be on our sun? would it make it have a huge solar flare, that it would burn earth like a marshmallow? Perhaps it will cause our magnetosphere to completely be non-nonexistent, again allowing gamma rays to kill/burn us.
Perhaps even, what if it creates a gravity field, that disrupts the sun, putting out MORE gravity from the center of our solar system...causing massive, huge earthquakes that would quite literally re-arrange the face of the earth like a children's puzzle.
Or perhaps a polar shift, we all know what the "science' examples are,and if you don't then catch the movie 2012.
The point is, whether it does or doesn't happen...FEAR of the un-certain unknown is what creates most of these thoughts to come into our head.

| | | 1.A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING.

Almost every single religion in the world talks about a "higher power". Something greater than all of us. But almost EVERY SINGLE religion in the world, also says we can BE LIKE god. That threw these teachings, you can reach a state of bliss/awareness/nirvana/level close to god. That somehow WE...human beings are god in some sense. What ever your religion is, i do not care, but we can all agree that WE HUMANS, can be better. That us being us, is not enough. We all know we can do better in life, but its the actions that count not the thoughts.
The bible itself says an apocolypse is to come. Note that, apocolypse in ancient times did NOT mean, massive destruction, it quite litearlly meant Apocalypse literally means "to uncover" or "to expose" the truth."
I dont know about you, but within the past year,I have had several signs, reasons, and random things that have pointed me PERSONALLY, to a higher spirtual awarenss. Things have all the sudden pointed me towards something i KNOW is going to happen WITHIN me. I have spoke to many many people on ats,in the real world, clubs,photoshoots, school...everywhere anywhere...and a good amount says they have a "feeling" something big is going to happen. So many people all the sudden are getting very spiritual. And not to "look cool" or because THEY themselves are searching it. It is as if, it finds them.
so many ancient religions,point to this day for a REASON. Not by some random flux, but literally FOR A REASON. the very fact that there is a damn 2012 special thread on this website, goes to show how important this day is. We all know there is a higher part of us. We get glimpses of it everyday, and its those precious memories we hold dearest to our hearts. It goes to say that, if a spirtual awakening,is probably the "best case scnenario" in my mind

| | | ALIENS COME BACK TO VISIT

Once again, since the beginning of time, man has talked about "gods, aliens, great beings from the sky who taught and created us"
Let me ask you this, what would you do, if you found a primitive species on a planet, that was on the brink of evolution? That was possibly dieing out due to starvation, that was killing itself due to ignorance? On our earth alone, we see animals, we observe there natural way about them. But when things "go wrong", its our instinct to go in, and help them. To an animal we are "aliens" and a GOD to them.
Why would we believe that a species FAR more advanced then ourselves would not do the same?
There are to many things that are "unexplained" in our world, in our galaxy...in our universe that goes to say there HAS to be something else out there besides ourselves. Even our planet a few million years ago, hosted life...life we never thought or dreamed possible until we found there fossile remains. What goes to say the same cant happen on another planet?
Religions say its true... science says its very possible... math says it can be true...
but for some reason its not?
we believe the IMPOSSIBLE...but the possible? we shrugg our shoulders and say no. The simple fact is, that aliens HAVE been visited to our planet before, and probably still are. Why dont they show themselves??
why would they? we fight and kill MILLIONS, over a gooey substance that gets us around "faster".
we have enough to feed all the humans on earth, but yet we dont??
we kill others because of there skin color, for there eye shape, for what they believe. Why wouldn't we do something to a whole nother species? whos to say we wont do worse?
Again the fear, is what drives and manipulates us, to take ourselves to far dark places within ourselves.
The fact that our solar system is lining up with the center of our galaxy HAS to point to something more.
THe fact that oldest paintings, and cave drawings show's UFO's
The fact that the oldest written tablets/books/writings...all speak of aliens or gods.
it is again no mere fact that this happened 'by chance'

| | | NOTHING HAPPENS AT ALL

i'll keep it short and simple on this one. NOTHING HAPPENS. we spend a lot of our time in our personal lives, beliving in things...doing things...working towards things, that truelly have no meaning other than trying to fill a void. Perhaps we are just jumping ahead to many conclusions, before our logic sets in and says HEY, just think about it for a second.

But let me ask you this...lets say NOTHING HAPPENS...nothing at all. Would we be better off? At the pace of what our world is going on right now. How do you truelly think our planet, our species...will be in 100 years? We would like to think and assume on the positive side. But from what were seeing now...it really truelly looks like it would be far far worse, than any of the other 3 listed above. It took something so radical, that a man named jesus had to go threw such a brutal death...to show the world YOU CAN BE BETTER. YOU MUST be better...for your own sake. Let me be the sacrafice, to show and open your hearts. (my way of viewing it sorry if u dont agree)
and that was only for a small group of people.
We have how many BILLIONS on this planet now?? you think one life, would be enough to show and prove the point? millions die yearly, and no one could care less. What happened to all this love for Michael Jackson? suddenly its gone?

The fact of the matter is SOMETHING MUST CHANGE US. Something HAS to happen, by law. We are in a critical moment in our species time, where we are hurting and harming more, than doing good.

It is time for a change, what one is the question...

"Finally....the year '2012', as relating to the Mayan calendar, has no special significance, except for that which is concocted in the minds of some of these nutcases" by weed whacker

Typical negative mind control technique Ive seen used in these forums so many times. Dude argue your point without demeaning the OPs belief which in this case he supports with Horn. Dec.21, 2012 in my opinion is eve of 2013 which will mark the arrival and establishment of Apollion who after being accepted as a messianic figure will open the pit and and be possessed by his father Zeus or Satan as we call him. I have seen you in here before and you are master of the "subliminal reproach" as it was called when I was learnin MC. Designed to shew away the masses that have been brainwashed by media the same way to think any thinking out of the box is nutty, conspiracy theory, etc. btw is that all you got for an argument? The webot project goes blank after 2012 , mathmatics show all novelty going to zero in 2012. So something is gonna happen then, only instead of a real star (so called nibiru) A star(son of God) will fall in ancient writings he known as the destroyer. Revelations 9 btw Norway was just the begining of sign and strange wonders that will be in part a way of getting the masses used to this sort of thing so when he does fall most will blow it off as another government experiment.

" In Matthew 24:34, Yeshua is recorded as saying: "...This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus appears to have predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. " Nice quote but wrong interpretation. The word in the Greek for generation, also and more appropriately translated means eon. Jesus was born in and at the beginning of the sign of Pisces hence the fish representing him in the catacombs. He was referring to the end of the astrological age of Pisces. Since so many at that time prescribed to astrology. Yes, I believe a certain urgency was allowed to exist within the Apostles so that the church would be grown from a small movement to a world wide movement quickly which was needed for it so survive and dominate till these the true end times. I see you aren't a believer of the Most high or you would put down spirituality.
Funny I've read you in here and in my opinion you represent in these forums, every view which is what the gov would have us believe. your motto should be "WeedWhacker, just doing my part to keep the stupid sheeple asleep" just sayin. You have no understanding of the bible (proven above) except what you can use to skew into argument to support you. Good luck with that. I'd suggest, although I know you won't, read the link I provided to the authors writings based on the book the OP presents and then come back and argue. Cause your stuff is not gonna work with those that live and work for the real God of hosts, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. God Bless ~~

I read the book and watched his videos. I found his book to be interesting, but almost put it down and walked away when he stated John Adams was the 3rd President. I decided to read the book anyways, after finding an excuse that would forgive such a naughty error. (In a classical sense that is correct, John Hancock (President of the Continental Congress), Washington, Adams...


Regarding the book, I thought it was well done and well thought-out, (save for the Adams part). What really freaked me out is, the Cortez/Montezuma motif in Washington. If you look behind the Aztecs being depicted, there is the Aztec/Mayan Calendar that started this whole 2012 nonsense. THERE IT IS, in a motif created in the late 19th Century. When the History Channel tells us that that Calendar and its end date only became known to America in the 1960's. I was like, what the heck! Not to mention what is painted on the ceiling of the Rotunda in the Washington Monument, where heads of state, lay in state... That was crazy too... All the other stuff, okay, very interesting read, but that motif and the Rotunda blew me away.


BTW, even though Mr. Horn is a religious person, his book is NOT a religious book, anyone who even suggests such a thing has no idea what they are talking about, period!


I would recommend that book, it is entertaining if nothing else.


--Charles Marcello


[edit on 29-12-2009 by littlebunny]

Is there really no one else who has read that book. I mean for ATSers not to have read that book kinda freaks me out. It really is a interesting read. Okay, so this is a bump, but the question still remains.


--Charles Marcello

Tom Horn has free blogs to read at Defenderpublishing.blogspot.com ... and I find this is my SOURCE MATERIAL to understanding the NWO movement. Not only does he provide excellant research into the masonic and elite societies, he also provides the comprehensive historical scope required to understand their agendas. If you dont have this background (which is in part mirrored in other works) then you will probably miss critical information about the current organizational drive which is happening, even if youre on top of current events. His blogs start from last April, and Ive read all thirty. Even if you dont have much time, take the time for chapters seven and eight.

The commentry to be found from readers is priceless and edifying too. I covered most of it, even though that was the greater part of the reading. Theres no sense not being an in-depth scholar about current affairs, Tom will enforce that lesson without even saying it. The blogs are free, to the point of buy his book or dont, not that I dont recommend it.

Er....I'm unsure what you're unsure about, so I can't offer insight. His research is voluminous, historically accurate - you know he has studied it to the core and presents it as an integral work to everyone- and it's the fact that he overproves his points that leads to a few quibbles about accuracy. I Don't need to add credence to what he wrote, I only wish more people had read the book or the blogs to see what is happening, has happened. Ruling Freemason Blueprints = Hell on Earth.