I dont pay the IRS.

I am too poor for them to care

I do think they need to all go to prison tho, for treason against this nation.

Most of you act like you are scared of these IRS goons.

Do not fear, for they bleed red just as we do my friends. They are very weak.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I dont pay the IRS.

I am too poor for them to care

I do think they need to all go to prison tho, for treason against this nation.

Most of you act like you are scared of these IRS goons.

Do not fear, for they bleed red just as we do my friends. They are very weak.

It's not the IRS people fear it's the police, judges and jail time along with a really good chance of being convicted.

I have studied this issue and this person for some time and followed this and other cases that he has been involved in. He fought them and won the first time. Now they come back after him for revenge and likely they are trying to make an example out of him to keep others from trying this. It is perfectly legitimate and if it ends up at the supreme court they will have to address the issue of the total devaluation of the money we have had to face.

Why is it that we are required to hold or even deal with a financial instrument that has no inherent value? They shoved this down our throats with this Federal Reserve act that was passed during the Christmas holiday when the congress was basically empty. If they tried some crap like this today it would cause a huge negative reaction and the phone lines at congress would melt down.

If you have a contract to be paid $50,000 in federal reserve notes for a year of work and in that year the Federal Reserve decides to devalue the money by 10% that same year does your contract get adjusted up to match? Not likely. The fact that they can make our currency worthless any time they like makes the dollar not worth taking in a fair trade for services.

On the other hand if you agree to be paid in gold and silver circulated currency and your contract is worth the same value or more if the FED descides to devalue the currency in that same year.

It just makes more sense to sign a year long contract in gold and silver than in Federal reserve debased fait money.

There is no way the feds can win this case IF he declared the face value of the coins sense they are legal tender. However if he just didn't declare anything at all it's a whole nother story IF he did have an income.

Question I have is If you are paying someone with a promissory note that is not legal tender can it be taxed?

Just asking because I know smaller towns (I'm talking populations under 500-600 people) are now starting to have their own in town promissory notes good for anything in the town with maybe one or two exceptions. I remember it being on CNN I think?? a few months back but this whole thing here just reminded me of it.

I am an electrician and a couple of years back I went to an all cash / barter system . It has worked out very well. For example ; I did a job for an MD. valued at near &5200.00 . His wife is a chiropractor . I have not paid taxes ( minimal ) nor medical office visits for quite some time .........been working great for me .

Originally posted by prd1
I am an electrician and a couple of years back I went to an all cash / barter system . It has worked out very well. For example ; I did a job for an MD. valued at near &5200.00 . His wife is a chiropractor . I have not paid taxes ( minimal ) nor medical office visits for quite some time .........been working great for me .

I applaud anyone who is willing to unplug from this diabolical system...

As more and more unplug...the system reaches critical mass, and REAL change can take place!

Has anyone here read the IRS Code USC 26?

If you are not an "elected official, government agent, military entity or any other government affiliated person", YOU DO NOT PAY TAXES.

Does anyone here make "Federal Income"? Then why oh why would you pay a "Federal Income Tax"?

Does anyone here make "State Income"? Then why oh why would you pay "State Income Tax."

If you are not required to file a Federal Income tax return, which most AMERICANS are not required too, then you do not file State Income Tax return either. By buying into this scam you have all, and I was at one time as well, screwed yourselves.

By putting your signature on ANY tax document you are authorizing the IRS and government to have authority OVER YOU!!!! I can not put it more plainly than that. Don't file, no problem, don't sign anything!!!!

Read the print at the bottom of a job application. It is an IRS document. You need not sign it to get a job. You also do not need to supply a Soc. Sec. number either. There are ways around it if you KNOW the LAW.

So why do people post their opinion and they have done absolutely no research into the subject matter. The Guy at the beginning story was perfectly within his right. I have met a shop owner, he's been in business 30+ years and has NEVER paid taxes, State or Federal. He knows the law and how to conduct his business to keep all matters legal and straight.

Think about the blacksmiths, the wagon builders, the carpenters and such back in the 1700's, the 1800's and early 1900's before the Federal Reserve was created, did they pay taxes? I very highly doubt it.

Come on here, a bit of common sense goes a very long way.

They're going to find a way to get him for capital gains. Even though the face value is less than coin value, it is still an increase in this guys networth isn't it?

Or does the mere fact that the material just happens to be viewed at as face value, regardless of the surplus value of it's chemistry.

I guess the way commodity prices are increasing. we will all get the chance to cash in on our coin values really soon!!

Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
So if the contractor did $12,000 worth of labor...he was paid 6 gold coins which have a face value of $300 (6 x $50). (but are worth $946 each) That is what the IRS is upset about. Since congress declares them legal tender at $50 that is the only amount they can be taxed at isn't it?

They want to tax the $12,000worth of labor, not the $600.

It turns out this guy has caused trouble for the IRS before. You can not mess with the IRS

I love the way this guy thinks.

I was an independent contractor for years and the IRS to this day hounds me relentlessly.

I have been audited six times in twenty years.

While they are tormenting the honest hard working citizen the big wigs and the wealthy walk away with the store.

Anybody that can legally put a wrench in their cogs is alright by me.

that guy sounds like he is really cool. awesome for him, man. it reminds me of the epic themes that resound in ayn rand's fountainhead. he's like a howard roarke sort of dude. or like a john galt from atlas shrugged. yeah, more like john galt, galt even prints his own money for his society which he and his like minded friends carve out of colorado. we could all move to the same location and start our own society and have our own money. ats ville.