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What do those behind the N.W.O hope to gain?

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 05:47 PM
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I'm a Christian. I understand the idea of it, but what do they really hope to achieve? To bring the plan to finalization or close to it, will take years.
And like everyone else, they they are mortal and face problems like any of us.

I know that they believe they are god or will become god. ( And do not believe in a devil or God.) But surely they can't be that deceived. Eventually we all die at least physically.

Do they perhaps believe that this new world order does not exist for only the physical but also the life after? I would like to know your thoughts on this. Cause to me it's really just a waste of time.
They were not born this way, and I don't hate them. They have been conditioned into believing in this for some reason. They are blind and need an awakening.

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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I don't know where you read that they think they will become God, I have never seen this before.

I don't think it has anything to do with religion, it's simply about greed and power. Manipulating the majority to benefit the few.

What they want to achieve is the world as they see it, totalitarian and controlled from the day you are born until the day you die. And in theory it's a good practice, one world government, one set of rules for people to follow, one currency allowing easy travel and trade. It's all a wonderful idea.

Until you leave that idea in the hands of evil men who are corrupt and simply live to watch the world burn and take advantage of others.

~Keeper



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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Their religion is humanism. They believe in the Luciferian philosophy. So therefore, they see their self as being a 'god'. It is very much religious. They may claim to be of one of the main religion's, but when it comes down to it, they are all the same.

I have studied it and no, a N.W.O would never be a good thing because man is fallen. There will never be the utopian society dreamers dream of.
Even in children you can see the fallen nature. I know what the N.W.O is, what I am asking is what they personally hope to gain. They will not live forever, so why bother working so hard at this "great" plan to never see it fully blossom ?

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by TruthSeeker8300
Their religion is humanism. They believe in the Luciferian philosophy. So therefore, they see their self as being a 'god'. It is very much religious. They may claim to be of one of the main religion's, but when it comes down to it, they are all the same.

I have studied it and no, a N.W.O would never be a good thing because man is fallen. There will never be the utopian society dreamers dream of.
Even in children you can see the fallen nature. I know what the N.W.O is, what I am asking is what they personally hope to gain. They will not live forever, so why bother working so hard at this "great" plan to never see it fully blossom ?

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"I have studied it and no, a N.W.O would never be a good thing because man is fallen. There will never be the utopian society dreamers dream of. "


so you read about it a bit from a negative standpoint, then made a decision on how you think/feel about it.. completely biased on the way you've been conditioned by your culture.

how do YOU know that immortaliity isn't posible?
how do YOU know that time travel isn't possible?
how do YOU know that ressurrecting the dead isn't possible?
how do YOU know that going back in time and taking samples of cells from people in teh past is impossible?
how do YOU knwo that creating clones from those cells isn't impossible?
how do you know that it isn't impossible to create a direct conduit from the death of someone in the past towards their ressurrection into a perfect ed clone in the future?

how do you know that ALL of that... creating a perfected body.. a perfect psychology of unity.. and utopia..
all of that ultimately ideal technology and living in different perfect immortal bodies.. ISN'T possible in the FAR far future???

if it is.. eventually possible..
then those people can just come BACK here and ressurrect everybody at once at a certain time.

we jsut need to RE-ORGANIZE to prepare for that.

if time is infinite.. then we will discover the ultimate truth to perfect living.
so we do that.. then we come back in time and create utopia.
so funny how christians think they freaking know it all.
and YOUR RELIGION is something THEY created in order to give you something to HANG ONTO until they create heaven.

i think you should stop worrying about them and worry about making youself as good a person inside and out as possible and just life fully.
instead of this "oooo it's impossible.. how could millions of the highest minds of our time have chosen such a dead-end road.. i must convert them.. i know better... ooooo"

give it up.

you have no imagination.

they do.
and they're going to fulfill it.
and you'll live in heaven after you die because of it.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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I forget where I read it, I think it was an Alex Jones source, but supposedly these people associated with the New World Order movement have been promised to become some sort of "Super Humans" as well as being exempt from RFID chip monitoring. I think the super human part has to do with biological technology that will help them all live longer. Basically new recruits are promised that they will be protected as long as they are a part of this "club."



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Thanks for the reply Diplomat. I can see the possibility of a super human eventually with genetic engineering. But these guy's will never see it.

Prevenge, I will only discuss with level headed, realistic, sane people. And please stay on topic. I have not been conditioned by my culture. I am a Christian since 2003. I was raised up in a family of Christians, but that does not make me one. I have studied the world religions before being a Christian.
And unless you embrace it, you do not belong to it. And that goes for any thing.

What do these people personally hope to achieve. Gordon Brown or one of the others could die today, they can die tomorrow. They cannot stop their aging. George Bush Sr cannot make himself young again or reverse his health problems. I can understand working hard to have a life not just for yourself, but for someone you love. But this goal of a n.w.o is a selfish one. It is self serving by my observation.



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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:39 PM
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I've also heard another theory that these people already understand reincarnation and how to control it. So old men like David Rockefeller and George Bush Sr. might not be concerned with physically "dying" because they will still live on. Who knows, just a theory.

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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What ever they believe in their heart, or what they might have done in the process to bring about this n.w.o. I don't hate them. I really don't and I don't think any of us should. We were all babies.
No one is born a murderer, rapist, or any terrible thing. I believe things pile up inside of us, which help to condition us into being what we are. But we still have a conscience to choose right or wrong. Only when you're angry I notice that the voice of conscience is temporarily not heard. Since anger clouds the mind.

If we can be good examples, treating our fellow man with respect and care as we should, then perhaps this change can be reversed and them also.



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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by TruthSeeker8300
Thanks for the reply Diplomat. I can see the possibility of a super human eventually with genetic engineering. But these guy's will never see it.

Prevenge, I will only discuss with level headed, realistic, sane people. And please stay on topic. I have not been conditioned by my culture. I am a Christian since 2003. I was raised up in a family of Christians, but that does not make me one. I have studied the world religions before being a Christian.
And unless you embrace it, you do not belong to it. And that goes for any thing.

What do these people personally hope to achieve. Gordon Brown or one of the others could die today, they can die tomorrow. They cannot stop their aging. George Bush Sr cannot make himself young again or reverse his health problems. I can understand working hard to have a life not just for yourself, but for someone you love. But this goal of a n.w.o is a selfish one. It is self serving by my observation.



Listen up..
you just said i was going off topic?
i adressed YOU Saying that they were going down the "path" that "you" thought they were on...
I adressed that and it isn't off topic.

The goal is to create utopia, the heaven, the new jerusalem "the new human body" and every body is going to come .

stop worrying about it.

everything in my first post is possible.

Jesus said "anything is possible" .. so human intellect takes that hint and achieves it through hard scientific research and hidden metaphoric and numerological coded guides within scripture.

time trave, immortality, ressurection, perfectly living in harmony with nature..
telepathy.. all perfect happy existence.. all achieved.. by god.. AS MANKIND.

we leave behind the "satanic" animal bodies we are in now.. and we enter the New Jerusalem, the new bodies.. and we experience a "new kingdom" by our experience through these new bodies.. .these christ bodies.

none of this is off topic.

this all adresses the why, the where the when...
y o u asked what's in it for them

i said it's not jsut them.. it's all of us.. ressurrection is possible.. and so is utopia.

if you don't believe in utopia then put down your bible because you don't believe in the new heaven and the new earth in revelations.
because you think that there will still be pain and suffering somehow.

externalize it all you want.
everything in the bible is WITHIN.

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 07:08 PM
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It was off topic because you went onto other subjects that do not answer my question. You do not answer a question with a question. I have plenty of imagination, but I know that you can imagine all day long and never have your imagination come to reality by wishing it up, or going against what we are able to do with this life and its limitations.

To me, the effort for a N.W.O is in vain. If the goal is for a one world totalitarian socialist government or a mixture, I have a feeling that the world would not stand by and let it happen. I believe in people, especially those around my age. I'm 25, and if people around my age are educated on what's really going on, I believe that we can bring about a change without violence.

By the way, I do believe in the Holy Bible. And there will always be only one Christ. And it's Revelation, not Revelations.

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 07:33 PM
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I'm confused here,
It is almost like one person is talking to themself,
and talking gobblydegook.
If you,TS8300 are a Christian then you will understand that Jesus was
a human and very human,his special attributes are matters of belief.
But what he represents to me is humanism,or dare I say
humanitarianism at its best,
so for me, man as represented by Jesus Christ will never be fallen.
Catch yourself on.
Then Prevenge comes in with all the possibilities,
and at a time in eternity they will become facts,
only with Prevenge it's the the NWO personified,
and reincarnated again,just to give you a bad time,
if what he says is a possibility.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 09:45 PM
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I'm not speaking to myself. I'm speaking to anyone that wants to look at this from a logical view and not some fantasy land.

Yes, I am a Christian and if I am to accept some of the teachings of Jesus, I need to accept them all. You cannot pick and choose. Either He is who He claimed to be, or He is a liar with the blood of countless followers on His hands. Fortunately He is not. Humanism is the worship of self, and Jesus was against that. And because I am a Christian, He is God, not a mere man.

However this is for another discussion. My thread is not about it. My thread is about what can these people hope to achieve personally. I guess it's just the lust for power, but then that would be an assumption. And people that assume make something out of their self that the first 3 letters of assume spell.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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Very good question. Motive.

Well they are already sort of super human because they have super money whcih gives them control and power, but they are not the only ones with control and power, sure they have people in the highest of places, but they need to protect the top of the pyramid, they are still working on expanding their control by infultrating all areas that you can imagine, media, religion, governmen, banking, anything that controls.. but they have to secure it an lock it down other wise they themselves have holes where they can be infultrated. so thats what they hope to achieve, they know people are becoming aware of this stuff, and they better have the top of the pyramid in tip top condition and gauranteed a cap stone for eternity or close to it on this earth and possibly beyond.

Thats all i think they are doing, not sure if they care less about de populating much, they like having slaves willing to work for nothing. They need the bottom of the pyramid to support the top. As for the all seeing eye, guess that will be technology, and or already is.

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