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White House merging national and homeland security

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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 05:35 PM

White House merging national and homeland security

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama announced Tuesday he is combining White House staffs dealing with international and homeland security, predicting the change will make Americans safer.
Obama also is creating a new office intended to communicate more effectively with other countries about U.S. security policy.
The Homeland Security Council, created after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, will be kept as a venue for discussing issues concerning domestic security, including terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, natural disasters and pandemic influenza. Its staff will be integra
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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 05:35 PM
Well here comes folks. Since 9/11/01 Homeland Security merges national and homeland security. As our constitution has been torn apart over the last 8 years and now our country becomes the subject of laws that are against the contstitution as this once great nation falls apart. Here come NAU and NWO.
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posted on May, 26 2009 @ 05:56 PM
I knew this would happen
More will happen soon too

I predict DHS will swallow up FBI and CIA as well, and maybe even ATF eventually and one day CDC.

It will seen as something for easier communication between entities.

They are shuffling staff, that's all that it is.
They want people whom they trust and can maybe 'buy'.

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:03 PM
Do we save money by doing this?

I mean . . .technically, they are redundant agencies, no?

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:16 PM
Fascist structures of all branches under one roof is nothing new, look at the Germans they were specialists doing just that with RSHA - the Similarities with this are just stunning!

Take a look at the structure of RSHA or Reichssicherheitshauptamt.

(Reich Main Security Office or Reich Security Main Office):

And the corny name: "Homeland security" really sound like it could be a branch of the German RSHA : "Fatherland security"

[edit on 26-5-2009 by Chevalerous]

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:22 PM
reply to post by Chevalerous

Off topic . . . I am glad there is an abbreviation for that.

Damn Germans and adding words to words to words to words lol

Back on topic

It is a bit creepy . . . the similarities.

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:22 PM
Here ... I'll post it again...

John Titor: When the civil “conflict” started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. Our home was searched once and the neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason. That convinced my father to leave the city.

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 08:16 PM
Wow. Combine this with the trillions of "bailout" dollars sitting in the financial institutions just waiting... When the trillions are realeased into the economy, what will we see?


Now what did I recall about pre-Nazi Germany...? Wasn't there something about hyperinflation?

I have been saying this is coming for a long while now. Yup. Just another brick in the Wall.

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 08:19 PM
Great just great! Now one agency is going to have power over everything international and national.

Let's get ready for more memos about "Right-Wing Extremists"

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 08:21 PM
I heard about this on the news this afternoon. The cyber czar aspect of this is already creating major waves. As soon as the rest of it hits the media later this week, you know things are going to get ugly. Very ugly.

Seriously considering taking up farming.

[edit on 26-5-2009 by mrsdudara]

posted on May, 26 2009 @ 08:36 PM

Originally posted by imitator
Here ... I'll post it again...

John Titor: When the civil “conflict” started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. Our home was searched once and the neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason. That convinced my father to leave the city.

I don't know what to make of Titor, but if he is from the future, he is not from the future I am working to create.

Yes, these things are looming, but I will not believe that it is beyond redemption. If I did, I would not have had the spirit to write my book, the purpose of which is to show a path out of the woods.

I know there are many who are sick of me mentioning my book (and likely The Terra Papers), but it is this threat - and other faction threats, too - that I would dispell.

And I keep saying that there isn't much time left in which to do something. And if I do not keep bringing up my book, pleading with my fellow individuals of sentience to consider what I am offering, it may be that these evil plans will come to fruition, and John Titor's future will also be ours.

Again I place a link to my book, and again, I ask for forgiveness in its novice writing. Look past the writing style - and initial female perspective - and envision what YOUR choices would be in the world I describe.

It is simultaneous service to both Self and Others.

And the looming Nazi plans we see here, suggest that we could make that choice. But I also propose that we have better choices we could make.

If you see where I am pointing Us to, share my work. And even if you don't, share it anyway for further opinion.

My FREE book:

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 05:03 AM
Homeland security has already been integrated with state police so it will change the infrastructure of what we have now. So basically our police force and military will be mingled together and our national security will now be a mater of international policy.

It also makes me wonder what Obama has in mind for his mandatory Peace Corps service program.

With this and the door to door census GPS program, it seems that the initial roundups are right around the corner. I imagine we will start reading about suspected terrorists detained by homeland security, meanwhile these groups would mainly consist of constitution loving individuals with no terror ties whatsoever to justify the unwarranted hijacking of our nation.

I wouldn't count on this being addressed much in the MSM, just prepare to hear more about financial recovery as whats left of this country completely falls apart.

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 07:11 AM
Wow! Obama sure slipped this one through without anyone noticing. He is getting pretty good at that. He must use a super lube of some sort.

One step at a time.... The bank control, auto manufacturing, credit card companies, the GIVE ACT, the mulitude of new Czars that are protected by the executive privilege and now this.

I am tired of calling this a power grab. It is more like an assault on our constitution and our lives. He is laying the foundation for something big!! 100 days and counting and look at what has happened to our country in such a short period of time. Why the sudden rush from a President who doesn't want to call the "War on Terror" a "War on Terror". Overseas contingency plan my arse.

He is doing this as a distraction. He is simply making it more difficult to follow the ball.

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 07:17 AM
I haven't noticed much in MSM, which doesn't surprise me, but when it does, I doubt anyone will care. In fact, people will probably think it's a great move by our beloved ruler in charge, oh, I mean commander in chief. It would be met with applause. All we need now is some cheesy commerical that goes something like this: "everybody in the nation should give up their civil liberties for security from the evil evil terrorists, asians, the middle east, outspoken people with an opinion, all masterminded by Osama Bin Laden. But don't forget people, our great in good friends are there for us to support them unconditionaly, the Saudis, the Israelis, and our future owners...the Chinese!"

All jokes aside though, I do wonder where the line will be drawn with people, how can people still have so much faith in the system while history is repeating itself right before our very eyes? When Hitler rose, people supported him without even thinking twice, but then would look back years later and not even be able to explain nor understand what they were thinking. I wonder if someday, hopefully it doesn't happen this way, that those same people that just gave up their freedoms for more security and handouts under the illusion of living the easy life will realize what they have done? I forget, history class is uncool and stupid, not to mention a waste of time right?

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 07:25 AM
It's not be the worst idea, the two agencies need each other. The biggest problem with the FBI and CIA is absence of communication, making investigations involving foreigners or foreign agencies useless. Imagine having the police and the courts work without each other's assistance and that sums it up. No point in even paying them if they cannot do the job, and we definitely need these agencies now more than ever regardless of personal viewpoints.

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 08:28 AM

The Freedom County Project is looking more attractive by the day:

[edit on 27-5-2009 by antisocialbutterfly]

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 08:30 AM
I am prepared to get attacked for this correlation, but I'll make it anyway simply because I am hoping that so many people refute my theory that I am convinced to think otherwise. Here goes:

With this announcement, plus the addition of at least 6 "czars" that Obama has put into various positions throughout all branches (internet, cars, security, bank, etc.), plus the addition of the latest Bilderberg Group efforts, I am beginning see parallels being formed.

Everyone that has been discussing 2012 in various topics always looks for a mystery planet/asteroid to destroy Earth. (I've read 12 different books of the subject and don't believe this theory to be correct.) However, I'm beginning to think the "events" of 2012 will take place, but instead of coming from above, it shall come from below. Meaning from the inside out.

I find it way too coincidental that various prophecies - I won't go into detail because that's not the original topic - predict massive depopulation, loss of widespread electricity, especially in the US, chaos and social unrest, etc. Further, anyone, whether you are pro or con Obama, can agree that he is moving at break-neck speed. Further, now add to that all of the UFO activity and the countries that are suddenly beginning to "come clean".

If the 2012 predictions are progressive, instead happening exactly on 12-21-2012 (which I believe is more likely -- things take time to develop and domino) than what areas of a country/world would you have to get back to functioning the fastest? (And yes, I believe that if the gov't knew an event was going to take place they would not tell us due to impending chaos before it even happened.)

Banking, transportation, communication, defense. It seems to me that Obama has a new point-person for each of these areas -- plus, look at what's going on worldwide: France just announced a new military base (the first in more than half a century AND during a recession), Russia and the US are working out all new energy deals, China holds a huge amount of US debt, we have troops spread extremely thin, etc. All of the major powers in the world are suddenly intertwined and with great risk involved.

Lastly, think of it this way: what would be easier to get up and working after major fallout -- one core system (NWO) or a whole bunch of smaller systems (the way it is now).

I am beginning to find the timing of all of this interrelated.

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 09:24 AM
Snap crackle pop!

All he needs is four more "Czars," and he could be the beast with 10 horns raised from its head.

Nice one!

[edit on 27/5/2009 by xxpigxx]

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 09:37 AM
If I had $500- at least it'd be peaceful and quiet to live out the last years of the planet.... that Bug Out spot would be well worth it. me, 2 cats, some chickens, and drawing supplies out the wazoo.

posted on May, 27 2009 @ 09:38 AM
reply to post by secretagent woooman

How quickly we forget, it was the US CONGRESS that mandated that the different agencies separate all ties after Watergate. Along comes 9-11-01 and CONGRESS complains that the agencies should have shared information!
They are all buffoons, the latest bunch are also morons!

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