Originally posted by RRconservative
4 posts and 4 bashes on Cheney. But no comments on his quotes. I didn't expect less!
Take the time to read his quotes, if you disagree...state why. If you agree...also state why.
If you want to bash Cheney do so in reference to his quotes.
Oh well I think I just killed my own thread! 
[edit on 25-5-2009 by RRconservative]
I've added to Cheney's quotes in
bold with what he either was thinking, or should have said to be truthful. ANything in bold, is added by
me.
1. "I've heard occasional speculation that I'm a different man after 9/11. I wouldn't say that, but I'll freely admit that
COORDINATING a
devastating attack on our country from an underground bunker at the White House can affect how you view your responsibilities."
2. "The first attack on the World Trade Center was treated as a law- enforcement problem, with everything handled after the fact: arrests,
indictments, convictions, prison sentences, case closed -
We sold them the explosives, trained them how to install it, but they screwed
up."
3. "By presidential decision last month, we saw the selective release of documents relating to enhanced interrogations. This is held up as a bold
exercise in open government, honoring the public's right to know. We're informed as well that there was much agonizing over this decision. Yet
somehow, when the soul searching was done and the veil was lifted on the policies of the Bush administration, the public was given less than half the
truth,
because, 1) I'd burned anything that related to me, and 2) I was still doctoring the rest to ensure it caused the most political damage to
those we want to get rid of, outspoken truth diggers."
4. "It's hard to imagine a worse precedent filled with more possibilities for trouble and abuse than to have an incoming administration criminalize
the policy decisions of its predecessor. Apart from doing a serious injustice to intelligence operators and lawyers, who deserve far better for their
devoted service, the danger here is a loss of focus on national security and what it requires.
Additionally, it would obviously incriminate me,
and anyone with any sense will know that I have the means and the disposition to kill anyone who fks with me"
5. "We had a lot of blind spots after the attacks on our country, things we didn't know about al Qaeda. We didn't know about al Qaeda's plans, but
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and a few others did know. And with many thousands of innocent lives potentially in the balance, we did not think it made sense
to let the terrorists answer questions in their own good time, if they answered them at all.'
Of course everything I said in the last paragraph
is tongue in cheek, obviously we knew everything because we were paying for it and had selected and trained everyone involved. What we needed was for
someone actually LIVING to produce a confession - and we needed it FAST. So we found some guys who we knew could be taken with no political fuss, and
we tortured the crap out of them - and viola - ya we got our confessions, and within our required time frame to keep our asses out of the fire.
6. "On his second day in office, President Obama announced he was closing the detention facility at Guantanamo. This step came with little
deliberation, and no plan.
The idiot hadn't even asked me, which is kind of stupid considering I completely outrank him. . Now the president
says some of these terrorists should be brought to American soil for trial in our court system. Others, he says, will be shipped to third countries;
but so far, the United States has had little luck getting other countries to take hardened terrorists.
So long as I'm around, and those guys
might get press, or change their story - then you can scrub off any idea they are getting out of my hands alive. "
7. "The administration has found that it's easy to receive applause in Europe for closing Guantanamo, but it's tricky to come up with an
alternative that will serve the interest of justice and America's national security.
Obama really is an idiot here - running off without asking
his superiors for direction on a fairly crucial issue. He is new, and doesn't realize his place yet, but he is learning. When I have decided who is
a threat in terms of having acess to press, and which of the prisoners I can kill off with impunity, then we have a clearer view going forward.
"
8. "If fine speechmaking, appeals to reason, or pleas for compassion had the power to move them, the terrorists would long ago have abandoned the
field.
Always gives me a kick calling those poor bastards terrorists. I mean sometimes we just pick them up at random. Mostly they are people
who know too much, were once useful - but no longer. The main reason we hold them is to use as leverage on their relatives who we can coerce to do or
say anything."
9. "It's worth recalling that ultimate power of declassification belongs to the president himself. President Obama has used his declassification
authority to reveal what happens in the interrogation of terrorists. Now let him use that same power to show Americans what did not happen thanks to
the good work of our intelligence officials.
Of course, producing evidence of nothing is what we do best.""
10. "To the very end of our administration, we kept al-Qaeda terrorists busy with other problems. We focused on getting their secrets instead of
sharing ours with them. And on our watch, they never hit this country again. After the most lethal and devastating terrorist attack ever, 7- 1/2 years
without a repeat is not a record to be rebuked and scorned, much less criminalized.
Of course - we had already won all the political motion we
could, pushed through our Patriot act and so forth, and Bush was basically so unpopular we could have landed a million screaming, drug crazed, mind
controlled Arabs on Manhattan Island - and no-one would have lifted a finger to support Bush anymore. Ya - the ride was over, we just needed to keep
all the wars running, just a little heat here and there, enough to keep the gun sales up - enough to keep a body of troops in Iraq - yeah, we had
already done the job. "
Well - you asked for people to respond to each quote - I think my responses are fairly much on the money.
[edit on 27-5-2009 by Amagnon]
[edit on 27-5-2009 by Amagnon]
None, they were all emotional. 
