Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
Bush and Cheney are awesome. I give them credit for doing what they thought was best to protect the citizens of the USA. You might disagree with that, but you cant say they didnt keep you safe.

The one thing Bush will be famous for in the history books will be his failure to keep American's safe. Its a well documented fact that the FBI was tracking some of the 9/11 terrorists, yet the attack happened any way. He should have resigned the day that it was revealed these people were being tracked by the FBI.

Of course if you look at the bigger picture its actually much worse than that. Bush decided, without any investigation into 9/11 over who done it (likely because he already knew it was his buddies who planned it it), to mount a couple wars on other countries in order to blame others for his own failure. While there is no evidence the wars have made us safer it is a widely accepted fact about 10,000 additional Americans have died so far fighting the wars. I'd hardly say the hundred thousand troops we have over there are very safe as a result of Bush sending them there. Lets not forget Bush has explicitly told us his most difficult job as president was connecting 9/11 with Iraq. (and you are welcome to challenge me for a citation there... I'll find it for you)

Also in response to the guy saying this post is a hoax. Of course it isn't. These Cheney's quotes sound pretty good to those who have not put a lot of thought and research into what is actually being said. There are millions of Americans who have been mistakenly suckered into Cheney's war mongering concepts and there is no reason why one of them should not post their opinions on this forum.

More propaganda from RR... I hope the GOP is paying him well.

So many of these "punches" have already been rebutted by the likes of Tom Ridge, the CIA and others that no further comment is necessary.

sorry for my mispellings and fast writing. hope ya all follow my train of thought.

Dick Cheney is a crackpot of a politician who'll say anything to those writing the check for his speeches.

Hope that wasn't the best "punches" Cheney has because he's liable to get his butt "kicked" by my 10 year old in a debate on international policy.

Admittedly, this response does not pertain to any quotes that you cited, but you kind of called for this type of response with the headline of your thread.

Seriously, I hope the guy has a heart attack - he deserves a very painful death for all the strife and hardship he's brought upon the Iraqi and Afghani people.

First off I gotta admire your courage for this post, knowing what the response would be.
Second, 12 months ago I would have agreed with you wole-heartedly, but with hindsight it really looks like the GOP at that time was looking after its own self interests "for the sake of the country".
Yes, they did keep us safe. No arguement there but at what cost? They might not have been the big abusers of the constitution here but they opened the door for the likes of Obama who will carry the ball for them and TRUELY abuse the hell out of the constitution.
I still think its too early to start judging the last administration, and thats comming from a brand new libertarian (I quit the GOP after TARP) not being judgemental but give it time. They'll either prove themselves right through Obamas inactions or wrong through the same.

[edit on 26-5-2009 by humilisunus]

Originally posted by humilisunus
This doesn’t surprise me at all, this site was/has/always will be the national enquirer of freak shows. If truth was ever to hit this site it would explode like a sheep with bomb up its ass. no one here wants you to be ok or protected or for that matter even give a # about humanity it’s a job, and business and it’s all about money and spin. I used to think the site was for truth now I realize it’s just a farce. Please revoke my membership in your schizoid #ing site the world is better without retards like the OP who works for the #ing site, hypocritical assholes.

I could fabricate a better story in the toilet upstairs.
Lets all see how long a truthful post last, not long thats for sure or the illusion will bust and everyone will leave.

wow
I didn't know you couldn't express your own opinion on this site.
Could you please let us all know how to think. I'm going to sit in my livingroom and drool until someone tells me what to do. . .

People spend so much time debating who is more evil. Is it Cheney? Is it Bush? Is it Obama? Here's the thing we should be debating -- the total destruction of America due to the way our entire political system is set-up.

1. The middle-class is considered the "backbone" of America (both Rep. and Dem. agree on this).

2. The median American household income (in the year 2007) was $50,000 / year.

3. only 1.93% of American households make over $250,000.

4. 12.3% fell below the federal poverty threshold.

5. The bottom 20% of American households made less than $19,000 / year.

The reason for these numbers is simply to show that nobody in any upper-level political position will ever be able to know what the average American needs or wants -- because they are not one of us.

Running for office requires an enormous amount of money -- money that roughly only 2% has.

The only way we are ever going to get a FAIR and JUST administration that represents the MAJORITY of Americans is when we set standards for election and campaigning practices.

For example, I think that anyone running for office should be alotted a certain amount of money, taken from our current taxes, to pay for campaigning. (The scale would be a sliding scale based on the level of office, i.e. mayor, governor, president, etc.) But it would be equal for all candidates in one given election.

This would prevent one person from being able to buy an election (look at John Corzine as an example in New Jersey). Further, this would stop campaign donations from large corporations, lobbyists, etc., that then are looking for their payback.

Lastly, look at how much money is wasted running a campaign. Hundreds of millions of dollars. I personally think that it's repulsive.

Originally posted by grover
More propaganda from RR... I hope the GOP is paying him well.

So many of these "punches" have already been rebutted by the likes of Tom Ridge, the CIA and others that no further comment is necessary.

As opposed to the daily propaganda you post that takes every opportunity to bash the GOP, even when you have to stretch the truth.

You're the pot calling the kettle black here, Grover.

Republican party, meet the Whigs

Whigs, meet the Republicans...you two have alot in common now...


NewReps need to be socially liberal, while maintaining a fiscally conservative stand...anything short of that will spell the very real end to your party...the 50s mindset is almost lost in the voting, now your dealing with baby boomers as the elderly vote, whom are socially conservative...and after that, the disco era, the excess 80s, emo 90s, and hardcore science 2k.

But, the old timer republican hillbillys wont give up their grand old party without a fight...which means reps will be in the woods for a long time. Think progressive, or think retirement...your choice.

Um...If Cheney is considered and Patriot, then you can call me Canadian. I would think people like William Cooper and Robert Collins are True Patriots. How about all those troops who are dying for our cause, aren't they Patriots? Cheney has done absolutely nothing for this country and I find it amusing that he is on Television and Print every day, but while in office he barely could be found except when he shot that guy in the face for no reason.

JustJoe

[edit on 26-5-2009 by JustJoe]

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
Bush and Cheney are awesome. I give them credit for doing what they thought was best to protect the citizens of the USA. You might disagree with that, but you cant say they didnt keep you safe.

9/11=Largest terrorist attack on American soil. How did they keep us safe? Oh right if you dont count the largest attack ever. You cant have it both ways. To say they kept us safe but were on the clock for the largest attacks with obvious and repeated warnings that it would happen is just plain foolish.

It would be like me saying I have a perfect driving record except for that one speeding ticket I got. Any intelligent person would call BS on that claim, and the same should be done for Bush and Cheney.