The 10 punches that Dick Cheney landed on Barack Obama's jaw, page 1
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Topic started on 25-5-2009 @ 05:17 PM by RRconservative
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1. "I've heard occasional speculation that I'm a different man after 9/11. I wouldn't say that, but I'll freely admit that watching a coordinated, devastating attack on our country from an underground bunker at the White House can affect how you view your responsibilities."

2. "The first attack on the World Trade Center was treated as a law- enforcement problem, with everything handled after the fact: arrests, indictments, convictions, prison sentences, case closed."

3. "By presidential decision last month, we saw the selective release of documents relating to enhanced interrogations. This is held up as a bold exercise in open government, honoring the public's right to know. We're informed as well that there was much agonizing over this decision. Yet somehow, when the soul searching was done and the veil was lifted on the policies of the Bush administration, the public was given less than half the truth."

4. "It's hard to imagine a worse precedent filled with more possibilities for trouble and abuse than to have an incoming administration criminalize the policy decisions of its predecessor. Apart from doing a serious injustice to intelligence operators and lawyers, who deserve far better for their devoted service, the danger here is a loss of focus on national security and what it requires."

5. "We had a lot of blind spots after the attacks on our country, things we didn't know about al Qaeda. We didn't know about al Qaeda's plans, but Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and a few others did know. And with many thousands of innocent lives potentially in the balance, we did not think it made sense to let the terrorists answer questions in their own good time, if they answered them at all."

6. "On his second day in office, President Obama announced he was closing the detention facility at Guantanamo. This step came with little deliberation, and no plan. Now the president says some of these terrorists should be brought to American soil for trial in our court system. Others, he says, will be shipped to third countries; but so far, the United States has had little luck getting other countries to take hardened terrorists."

7. "The administration has found that it's easy to receive applause in Europe for closing Guantanamo, but it's tricky to come up with an alternative that will serve the interest of justice and America's national security."

8. "If fine speechmaking, appeals to reason, or pleas for compassion had the power to move them, the terrorists would long ago have abandoned the field."

9. "It's worth recalling that ultimate power of declassification belongs to the president himself. President Obama has used his declassification authority to reveal what happens in the interrogation of terrorists. Now let him use that same power to show Americans what did not happen thanks to the good work of our intelligence officials."

10. "To the very end of our administration, we kept al-Qaeda terrorists busy with other problems. We focused on getting their secrets instead of sharing ours with them. And on our watch, they never hit this country again. After the most lethal and devastating terrorist attack ever, 7- 1/2 years without a repeat is not a record to be rebuked and scorned, much less criminalized."


Dick Cheney is a true Patriot. If the GOP is looking for leadership and guidance they don't have to look any further than this man right here.


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 05:44 PM by Tentickles
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My statement referred to quote number 3. If you couldnt see that you are definitely not reading our responses correctly.



reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 05:48 PM by DrumsRfun
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I can't take his words seriously man,he is a liar,hence why I disagree with anything he says.
If you had an ats member that always posted lies...would you even care to read his words and take him seriously?
He is transparent in his agenda...war war war by any means possible so I can make money and take your freedoms away at the same time.
Torture and war is never ok to peaceful people.


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 05:51 PM by RRconservative
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3. "By presidential decision last month, we saw the selective release of documents relating to enhanced interrogations. This is held up as a bold exercise in open government, honoring the public's right to know. We're informed as well that there was much agonizing over this decision. Yet somehow, when the soul searching was done and the veil was lifted on the policies of the Bush administration, the public was given less than half the truth."

Are you admitting that you came to your conclusion based on "less than half the truth"?


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 05:53 PM by Tentickles
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Now I know you're just messing with me. I didnt even make a mention of half truths in my first comment.


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 05:57 PM by harvib
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"It's hard to imagine a worse precedent filled with more possibilities for trouble and abuse than to have an incoming administration criminalize the policy decisions of its predecessor.


Rhetoric! First of all the incoming administration didn't criminalize the inferred policy decisions. They were already criminalized both domestically and internationally. Second I disagree that accountability for criminal actions is a negative precedent.


reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 06:00 PM by DrumsRfun
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The people invaded had to fight...the people invading were brainwashed into thinking it was ok and good for their country...sounds familiar eh?
It is not wrong for peaceful people to defend themselves.
Have a good night man I don't think there is any use for me to post in this thread.



reply posted on 25-5-2009 @ 06:03 PM by Chronogoblin
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I can't say much about the other quotes, as they all seem like the same kind of jibber-jabber you hear out of almost every politician everywhere. It seems like he said something, but in reality, it is smoke and mirrors. Number 10 on the other hand, I had to speak out about. I don't pretend to know what your opinion of 9/11 is, but it is mine that 9/11 was commited by 'homegrown terrorists'. So it is easy for Cheney to say that they 'prevented' another 'attack' in the 7-and-one-half years they were in office after the original attack. It is easy, because they controlled the attack-ers. Of course none of the so-called preventions are going to come to light, so there really is no way for us to know if they did indeed prevent another attack, or whether they just say they did.


Chrono
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