US investigator exposes Iran's nuclear weapons 'shopping list'

US investigator exposes Iran's nuclear weapons 'shopping list'

www.telegraph .co.uk

The investigation has revealed that the Iranians were negotiating to buy 400 gyrometers, 600 accelerometers and 100 pieces of the metal tantalum - crucial technology for building accurate long-range missiles that could deliver nuclear payloads.

Mr Morgenthau's unit, which has prosecuted several major US white-collar criminal cases, also established that LIMMT, a Chinese company that has long been a major supplier of banned weapons material to Iran, had shipped a long list of weapons-related...

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[edit on Mon May 25th 2009 by TrueAmerican]

The items included 15,000 kgs of specialised aluminium alloy used almost exclusively in long-range missile production; 1,700 kgs of graphite cylinders used for banned electrical discharge machines; more than 30,000 kgs of tungsten-copper plates; 200 tungsten-copper alloy hollow cylinders; 19,000 kgs of tungsten metal powder and 24,500 kgs of maraging steel rods, which are favoured for their superior strength.

"It's the usual list of items that Iran needs for its missile and weapons programmes," said John Pike, director of globalsecurity.org, a private security research group. "Whether it's dual use or not is irrelevant. The Iranians are acquiring a glass half-full. They can use that stuff for what they want when they get it."

Hmm, so how is it that this supposed investigation is uncovering all this when the IAEA and our own CIA cleared Iran?



My BS meter has exceeded the red zone on this, until further confirmation surfaces from the IAEA. But that may be difficult considering the director's recent resignation, and the failure so far to reappoint an internationally agreeable replacement. Could his resignation secretly have something to do with this?

And the other obvious question is that could these particular purchases have use in civilian nuclear energy power plants as well?

I for one am going to wait this one out before jumping on the attack Iran bandwagon.

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[edit on Mon May 25th 2009 by TrueAmerican]

Well, I do have to agree that any "US" investigation regarding Iran is to be taken with a grain of salt. Seems every other day there is a new report condeming Iran for some sort of activity.

And now they even claim NK is helping Iran test it's nuclear payload and missile tech. More propaganda to instill fear in the general public. A war annoucement from one side or the other is probably imminent.

The word is a powder keg right now, and If I were the US, I would attempt any and all diplomatic solutions before even thinking of using military force.

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Yeah well get this:

en.wikipedia.org...

Robert Morris Morgenthau was born in 1919 in New York City into a prominent Jewish family that had emigrated from Germany in 1866. He is the son of long-time Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. His grandfather Henry Morgenthau, Sr. was United States Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire during World War I. Before going into diplomatic service, Henry Morgenthau, Sr. had made a fortune in real estate and then became a strong financial backer of President Woodrow Wilson. From his earliest days, Robert Morris Morgenthau was well connected politically. The Morgenthau family home was near Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Springwood Estate at Hyde Park, New York and he grew up knowing Roosevelt.

Wouldn't ya know it? Jewish. Prominent family. Heavy duty connections. NWO anyone? You betcha.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

The items included 15,000 kgs of specialised aluminium alloy used almost exclusively in long-range missile production; 1,700 kgs of graphite cylinders used for banned electrical discharge machines; more than 30,000 kgs of tungsten-copper plates; 200 tungsten-copper alloy hollow cylinders; 19,000 kgs of tungsten metal powder and 24,500 kgs of maraging steel rods, which are favoured for their superior strength.

"It's the usual list of items that Iran needs for its missile and weapons programmes," said John Pike, director of globalsecurity.org, a private security research group. "Whether it's dual use or not is irrelevant. The Iranians are acquiring a glass half-full. They can use that stuff for what they want when they get it."

Hmm, so how is it that this supposed investigation is uncovering all this when the IAEA and our own CIA cleared Iran?

My BS meter has exceeded the red zone on this, until further confirmation surfaces from the IAEA. But that may be difficult considering the director's recent resignation, and the failure so far to reappoint an internationally agreeable replacement. Could his resignation secretly have something to do with this?

And the other obvious question is that could these particular purchases have use in civilian nuclear energy power plants as well?

I for one am going to wait this one out before jumping on the attack Iran bandwagon.

www.telegraph .co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on Mon May 25th 2009 by TrueAmerican]

This seems like deja vu...Iraq? Anyone not actively supporting Zionism and globalism who seeks a method of defense (or innocent energy) seems to suddenly be threats to U.S. citizens, and therefore the government is protecting us by seding our soldiers to die for what Zionists want, and for Zionist lies. Most get fired for not following the guidelines at work. The Constituation, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence; wow, "elected" officials, lobbyists, news media, doing what ZIONISTS want only. Just wow, most of us would be fired and imprisoned for much less. "No excuse for robbing the bank...murder...EXCEPT when we do it and make up lies to justify it, although there IS no supposed justification possible." Ironic anyone?

Iran obtained the SS-4 missile from Russia and is now copying it.

www.fas.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">SS-4 production in Iran

That is why Iran wants gyrometers and other guidance technologies.

This really is Iraq redux.

All those metals listed by this "investigation" could be used in weapons production, but they are also used in many many more rather mundane and everyday industrial applications. Of course, that doesn't make news like the implication that they are specific to WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION production.

We have seen all this before, in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, and is nothing more than innuendo and outright speculation with no basis in fact. Of course, that never seems to get in the way of demonising anyone or anything that Israel wants others to attack for them.

reply to post by Britguy


Well Britguy you must be a newbie here because you clearly haven't been here long enough to read my past criticisms of Bush and his WMD nor of my criticism for Isreal in Lebanon.

Why don't you sit quietly in the corner for a couple of years and read what people say so that when you speak you know what you're talking about ?

Originally posted by sy.gunson
reply to post by Britguy

 

Well Britguy you must be a newbie here because you clearly haven't been here long enough to read my past criticisms of Bush and his WMD nor of my criticism for Isreal in Lebanon.

Why don't you sit quietly in the corner for a couple of years and read what people say so that when you speak you know what you're talking about ?

Pardon?

I'm certainly no newbie, in fact I think I've been here a lot longer than you.

As for the rest, I think I know what I am talking about when it comes to sensationalised / distorted data and stories being used to gear the populace up for war.

What part of my previous post got your dander up?

reply to post by TrueAmerican

I for one am going to wait this one out before jumping on the attack Iran bandwagon.

I wouldn't jump on the bandwagon either. But maybe it is a good idea to keep an eye on them and see if this develops further.

Great find

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Roger that. I suspected as much- and agree that's exactly what this is. Total spin. If this were true the IAEA or CIA (*cough*) would have already been all over it if the purchases were made with intentions for weapons.

And wassup sy, why the hard knocks on Britguy here? I would suggest you learn how to post a link before slamming those kinds of words on a veteran ATSer like Brit...