Crop Circle formation near Barbury Castle 05/25/09

Crop Circles are the least investigated phenomenon in the UFO field in my opinion. I am sure that there are messages embeded in all these circles , if only we would study them closer. I believe that we are being contacted right before our eyes , but we are so controlled that we can't see beyond the veil that has been set in front of our eyes. This latest crop circle really caught my eye.. www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Originally posted by RiotComing
reply to post by dragonridr

 

What? Those guys who do corporate work are a totally different kettle of fish! Thanks for 'muddying the waters' in this thread. To quote Dragon's Den, "I'm out"..

Sorry if a silly little thing called facts that people make crop circles seem to cause you a problem. You wanted some proof since obviously when i said they were man made you decided to come back and tell me i didn't know what i was talking about. Well its still a very neat art form just because it inst done by aliens doesn't mean they aren't interesting. This is one of the times were people can amaze you on what they can accomplish.

reply to post by Nightchild


I was going to say the same thing!
It looks like an Atom.
It's very pretty.

yanno whats kind of cool to do while looking at crop circle?

Stare at the middle of the image for 10 seconds, then look away at a white wall or something to get the negative image, kind of like those illusion tricks you see online and elsewhere

I have also seen septagrams on some police cars in multiple countries.

San Jose Police
Mexican Police
Police Badges

This crop circle is cool, but I wish there were some that had NO lines going through them. Otherwise it can just be dismissed as fake.

Originally posted by Elmocall911
How is it possible for a human being to do all these complex crop circles with geometric accuracy, in a short amount of time. Why wouldn't there be an alien life form that is responsible for the crop circles? You only need to look at your own DNA and see how much of it is actual human DNA. Remember our dna is 125 billion miles long and we only discovered 2%-3%. Dont make fun of alien believers because our own history is nothing about records of aliens.

No ...

If all the bases in the human genome were spread out 1 millimeter apart, they would extend from Memphis to Los Angeles.

Genes are chromosome pieces whose particular bases (e.g., ATTCGGA) determine how, when, and where the body makes each of the many thousands of different proteins required for life. Humans have an estimated 30,000 genes, with an average length of about 3,000 bases. Genes make up less than 2 percent of human DNA; the remaining DNA has important but still unknown functions that may include regulating genes and maintaining the chromosome structure.

Source: www.ornl.gov...

See also Craig Venter.

reply to post by reugen


A lot of the crop cirlce hoaxers are more than happy to show off their techniques on how they do it. It really isn't very complicated. I watched a DVD where a handful of guys made a very complex-looking design in less than 5 hours, using stakes and rope to mark out the design, and boards to flatten down the corn stalks.

But no one has answered the question I asked earlier. If the circles were made by aliens, why the games? Why not just broadcast a signal? Why not just land and say hi? Instead you folks want to believe that their preferred method of communication is vandalizing someone's cornfield?

reply to post by beautyfrompain


Just throwing this out there.........Could the circle and the 21 orbs represent the element Scandium??

Scandium (pronounced /ˈskændiəm/) is a chemical element with symbol Sc and atomic number 21. A silvery-white metallic transition metal, it has historically been sometimes classified as a rare earth element, together with yttrium and the lanthanides. In 1879 Lars Fredrik Nilson and his team, found a new element with spectral analysis, in the minerals euxenite and gadolinite from Scandinavia.

Scandium is present in most of the rare earth element and uranium deposits, but it is extracted from these ores in only a few mines worldwide. Due to the low availability and the difficulties in the preparation of metallic scandium, which was first done in 1937, it took until the 1970s before applications for scandium were developed. The positive effects of scandium on aluminium alloys were discovered in the 1970s, and its use in such alloys remains the only major application of scandium.

en.wikipedia.org...

I know I am reaching but someones got to ask these questions!

reply to post by jkrog08


The clowns in these craft think they are smart and like
an educational design once in awhile.

We know aluminum is used in saucer construction.
Or should know.
They must be up on investing in Scandium mining.

ED: Looks like a good saucer application for heating control
as a few sightings found molten aluminum drop off a saucer
and how about more available electrons for propulsion.
It might expose the pilot to some isotope radiation.


[edit on 5/28/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by jkrog08


this is not a representation of an atom no way it could be the electrons are 2 then 8 then 9 and the final orbit 2 again each in a separate shell. You can never have more than 2 electrons in the first shell

The solar system model of the atom is that the atom is like a tiny solar system, with the nucleus in the center and electrons rotating around the nucleus in orbits, similar to how the planets rotate around the Sun. It is also called the Bohr model, after Neils Bohr, who discovered electron shells in 1913.

A newer model of the atom replaces the electrons as tiny particles in orbits with an electron cloud in shells around the nucleus. This model is due to the Uncertainly Principle and is useful in Quantum Mechanics.

The latest theory says that the electrons are neither particles or clouds. Instead, they say they are shaped like pieces of string. String Theory has just been stated in the past few years.

However this is none of the above so id say most likely celtic kinda looks like a Celtic knot done with circles. Many of the crop circle artists use Celtic and though apparently Aztecs and now there also attempting 3 d designs so it can get difficult to figure out what they were trying to make but if you scan earlier crop circles you can usually figure out which artist because they dont sign there work they try to put a similar element in there designs, or slowly progress a pattern so they can show it was theres.

reply to post by dragonridr


I wasn't thinking of it as the representation of electrons (I am versed somewhat in physics, astrophysics, quantum physics, astronomy, and cosmology as my major is going to be Cosmology or Astrophysics). I was thinking the orbs might represent the protons (21 in number)........I was just throwing it out there though, I see someone beat me to it on the first page anyways,lol.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


If the element could be altered then the isotope radiation could be drastically reduced or eliminated. But I agree, these types of metals are very good for high speed air/space craft construction.

Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by jkrog08

 

this is not a representation of an atom no way it could be the electrons are 2 then 8 then 9 and the final orbit 2 again each in a separate shell. You can never have more than 2 electrons in the first shell

You sure do seem to have ALL the answers dont you!

And you know this for a fact? Hows that? Are you a physisist or did you pull this off the internet? Are you completely sure that your theory is correct? Because as far as I can tell we dont really kjow quat about physics but we think we do...

Also, you keep demanding that all crop circles are man made. This cannot be proven and if you think otherwise, you need to look a little deeper into this. Yes, there are groups of guys who make crop circles, thats known to most who dont live under rocks. However, they cannot be responsible for the crop circles that have bent stocks that are undammaged, show sighns of super heating to bed the stocks and radiation in some of them. There were even some exotic metal plates found burried int he soil under one CC from several years ago that no one can explain thier origion. If you go romping around any filed with boards on your feet, it's going to dammage the crop in some way of form and your going to leave traces that you were there. Just like a crime scene. There are too many variables that rule out some of these as being man made. Thats a fact!

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
Crop Circles are the least investigated phenomenon in the UFO field in my opinion. I am sure that there are messages embeded in all these circles , if only we would study them closer. I believe that we are being contacted right before our eyes , but we are so controlled that we can't see beyond the veil that has been set in front of our eyes. This latest crop circle really caught my eye.. www.cropcircleconnector.com...

That is AWESOME to say the least...

I read the info from the website and this is very interesting and appears to relate to the first one mentioned in this thread. It appears to be a sign of a penumbral lunar ecplise on July 7th 2009. This circle was made on may 25th and from the diagram on the site represents 42 days left.

The origional circlce mentioned in the thread represents 43 days left and was created on May 24th... Check it out...










[edit on 28-5-2009 by ls1cameric]

reply to post by ls1cameric


I'm going to ask the same question of you: You know all this for a fact? You actually personally visit these crop circles and see for yourself that the stalks aren't damaged (you're a certified crop damage specialist?), looked over the test results from the soil samples, and based on your extensive knowledge of the subject have confirmed humans couldn't have possibly made these circles?

I site Occam's Razor: given a number of options, always go for the simplest. And the simplest explanation is that, unless PROVEN otherwise, human beings made those crop circles.

Also, I second Dragonrider on the atomic model. This has been discussed on ATS just in the last couple of months. Your crop circle doesn't at all resemble an atom. You guys haven't been keeping up on current theory.

reply to post by Charis


There has been a number of research teams to investigate crop circles. Only around 10% remain unknown, but those 10% seem to defy all logical explanations. Here is a video about them...

reply to post by Aldolas


Maybe something/someone is trying to tell us something.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by jkrog08

 

this is not a representation of an atom no way it could be the electrons are 2 then 8 then 9 and the final orbit 2 again each in a separate shell. You can never have more than 2 electrons in the first shell

The solar system model of the atom is that the atom is like a tiny solar system, with the nucleus in the center and electrons rotating around the nucleus in orbits, similar to how the planets rotate around the Sun. It is also called the Bohr model, after Neils Bohr, who discovered electron shells in 1913.

A newer model of the atom replaces the electrons as tiny particles in orbits with an electron cloud in shells around the nucleus. This model is due to the Uncertainly Principle and is useful in Quantum Mechanics.

The latest theory says that the electrons are neither particles or clouds. Instead, they say they are shaped like pieces of string. String Theory has just been stated in the past few years.

However this is none of the above so id say most likely celtic kinda looks like a Celtic knot done with circles. Many of the crop circle artists use Celtic and though apparently Aztecs and now there also attempting 3 d designs so it can get difficult to figure out what they were trying to make but if you scan earlier crop circles you can usually figure out which artist because they dont sign there work they try to put a similar element in there designs, or slowly progress a pattern so they can show it was theres.

But you are using "theory" based on what we "think" to be true of our world.

What if this is not of our world?

What is this is an attempt to show us how we got it wrong?

If nothing else. It keeps us guessing.

Originally posted by ls1cameric

Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by jkrog08

 

this is not a representation of an atom no way it could be the electrons are 2 then 8 then 9 and the final orbit 2 again each in a separate shell. You can never have more than 2 electrons in the first shell

You sure do seem to have ALL the answers dont you!

And you know this for a fact? Hows that? Are you a physisist or did you pull this off the internet? Are you completely sure that your theory is correct? Because as far as I can tell we don't really kjow quat about physics but we think we do...

Also, you keep demanding that all crop circles are man made. This cannot be proven and if you think otherwise, you need to look a little deeper into this. Yes, there are groups of guys who make crop circles, thats known to most who dont live under rocks. However, they cannot be responsible for the crop circles that have bent stocks that are undammaged, show sighns of super heating to bed the stocks and radiation in some of them. There were even some exotic metal plates found burried int he soil under one CC from several years ago that no one can explain thier origion. If you go romping around any filed with boards on your feet, it's going to dammage the crop in some way of form and your going to leave traces that you were there. Just like a crime scene. There are too many variables that rule out some of these as being man made. Thats a fact!

Im not a physicist no its a specialized field and most physicists aren't really worried about atoms sorta old news. But i am more than familiar with science which apparently you are not.Otherwise you would have known this and came up with another theory.If you wanted to do some research on the crop circle contact circle makers they categorize all crop circles and will at least give you a lead on which group is responsible.

Now Not all crop circles are man made but if it is intricate and detailed it is prior to the artists being involved it was a circle no other circles just 1 in the middle of crops my suspect is a vortex. Now hopefully you learned something here and in the future feel free to argue the point but don't try to attack the individual you do know the difference don't you? I'm anticipating your thesis proving crop circles aren't man made.

Oh PS the mettle plates were hoaxed but again don't believe everything you here do some research and as far as your undamaged crops that researches i gave a website in my earlier posts they'll be happy to explain how certain so called researches odd theories,And how several circles were deemed real just to have them pr oven faked.

[edit on 5/28/09 by dragonridr]

This is a hoax, in my opinion. The design is fully tessellating. The arcs all centre in a dot, making it easy to put in a stick, tread down the arc and where the arc centre is a dot, it's already tread down.