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Originally posted by network dude
Fear mongering aside, I kind of thought it was a good idea to have this kind of info on your children no matter how you get it. If you don't trust the CHIP program because of the name, then get the stuff yourself. I just think it's a good idea. The amber alert folks think so too. They kind of dictate what needs to be in these kits. Fear mongering is like saying the world will end next week unlett you buy carbon offsets. This is a bit different. It's called being responsible.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
An aging evil person or, evil persons relative/friend, needs an organ transplant and has the influance or the money to gain acess to this database of information. He then finds your childs rare or just matching blood type and hunts him down.
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
What? Who goes around fingerprinting children to see who their caregivers say they are?
The Masons are not creating a database, at least that is what they claim. But law enforcement could start collecting a database.
The masons create an ID collection (MasoniCHIP) for you which includes digital photo, voice recognition, fingerprint, saliva collection, teeth imprint, and DNA.
Do you want that kind of profile for yourself? Then why would you want it for your child?
These identification techniques do not make us safer only erode our dignity and privacy. TPTB would love to have all that data in the microchip they intend to implant everyone with in the future. Plus your banking and medical records. This is nothing more than fear mongering and desensitization.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
You know that your scenario is BS. 99.9% of abductors will either rape them, kill them or sell them to another country.
Originally posted by miragezero
This is an outrage! I demand my masonic nuke chip!
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
Ok, fair enough, but might it not condition citizens for the emergence of such a data base revolving around biometric identification technologies?
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
I mean like just how many freaks are really out there abducting children?
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
And some research into the abduction case which led to the Amber Alert system might be in order here.
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
Like I said, the ACTUAL scope of the problem of child abduction, rape and murder in our society is probably so small (aside from the dark underword networks I mentioned), that the odds of a parent having their child taken by a lone freak are assuredly slimmer than winning the powerball lottery, being hit by lightning from a clear blue sky, or suffering from the cataclysmic destruction of a meteor impact.
It's true that 797,500 people under 18 were reported missing in a one-year period, according to a 2002 study. But of those cases, 203,900 were family abductions, 58,200 were nonfamily abductions, and only 115 were "stereotypical kidnappings," defined in one study as "a nonfamily abduction perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in which a child is detained overnight, transported at least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with the intent to keep the child permanently, or killed."
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But in other ways, the NCIC may understate the figures. Many missing persons aren't reported at all—a 1997 study estimated that only 5 percent of nonfamily abductions (in which a nonfamily member detains a child using force for more than an hour) get reported to police. Some police departments may not even bother filing a report when a kid runs away from home for a few days. It's also easy to lose track of abduction cases, since some of them get filed away under associated crimes, like homicide or sexual assault.