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Hezbollah could strike Israel to divert Hariri probe

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posted on May, 25 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Hezbollah could strike Israel to divert Hariri probe


www.haaretz.com

A series of recent developments in Lebanon, against the backdrop of the country's parliamentary election on June 7, have raised tension along the northern border. And while the prevailing view in Israel's intelligence community is that Hezbollah has no interest in escalation right now, it is nevertheless following the situation closely.

Summer is often a hot time in the Middle East. The Second Lebanon War broke out in summer 2006, and the tense summer of 2007 culminated in Israel's air strike on a Syrian nuclear facility - though that elicited no Syrian response. This year, internationa
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posted on May, 25 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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This is an interesting article. Evidently there is new speculation in Lebanon regarding whether Hezbollah may have been behind the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

The article by Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff of Haaretz Correspondents all but rules out any attack on Iran until Washington tries to talk to Tehran but believes there is a high possibility a War on Israel’s northern border with Lebanon will erupt by Hezbollah attacking Israel to keep an investigation moving forward inside of Lebanon over their own possible involvement in the former Lebanese Prime Ministers death.

Could it be possible Lebanon might also be headed for a new civil war?


www.haaretz.com
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posted on May, 25 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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In Lebanon, in contrast, events are occurring at a dizzying pace. Over the last two weeks alone, there have been a wave of reports about the exposure of "Israeli spy rings" in Lebanon. The German newspaper Der Spiegel reported that a UN inquiry committee concluded Hezbollah, not Syria, was behind the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri; a senior Hezbollah official charged that Israel is seeking to assassinate the organization's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, and threatened that doing so would ignite a regional war; Egypt uncovered a Hezbollah cell in its territory; and the Israel Defense Forces mulled extending the term of GOC Northern Command Gadi Eizenkot by a year due to the tensions in the north


Is Israel itself stirring up this hornet nest in advance of a planned military strike on Iran by seeking to first neutralize Hezbollah on it's Northern border?



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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The old question of "Who Benefits" usually gives the answers.

The accusation against Syria cratered but at the time it forced the pull back of Syrian troops from Lebanon....then Israel attacked not too long afterwards.
Now that the blame is clearly not with Syria and everyone knows it always lacked any credibility, they now try to blame Hezbollah. Once again, who benefits from any internal struggles in Lebanon?



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
The old question of "Who Benefits" usually gives the answers.

The accusation against Syria cratered but at the time it forced the pull back of Syrian troops from Lebanon....then Israel attacked not too long afterwards.
Now that the blame is clearly not with Syria and everyone knows it always lacked any credibility, they now try to blame Hezbollah. Once again, who benefits from any internal struggles in Lebanon?


Excellent points, thanks for sharing them. In answer to your question Israel would benifit the most in such a situation.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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More "speculation" from the media.

I am sorry, I must be mistaken. But last time I checked the news was for reporting facts, not educated guesses.

I can understand writing about the issue, but this will probably end up angering hezbollah and edging them on.

They write about this conflict like it's two super villains deciding who gets to fight the super hero.

~Keeper



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
More "speculation" from the media.

I am sorry, I must be mistaken. But last time I checked the news was for reporting facts, not educated guesses.

I can understand writing about the issue, but this will probably end up angering hezbollah and edging them on.

They write about this conflict like it's two super villains deciding who gets to fight the super hero.

~Keeper


I couldn't agree with you more. Now days it seems like the Press simply looks to shape and propel public oppinion and to create platforms for causes.

Lebanon used to be such a beautiful and peaceful country until the politics of Israel changed the political landscape in the Middle East.

A lot of people sure have had to pay a steep price for that, the Lebanese in many ways more so than others.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Let us look at this logically...

The leader was working on removing the terrorists from Lebanons government.

He was telling Syria (one of Hezbolla's masters) to remove it's troops and influence from Lebanon.

Then he is killed
, and the terrorists, hezbolla attack Israel to start a war between lebanon and Israel.

Yes, who does benefit in all this:
1) the terrorist masters Iran and Syria
2) the terrorists Hezbolla, who want to take over Lebanon.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
More "speculation" from the media.

I am sorry, I must be mistaken. But last time I checked the news was for reporting facts, not educated guesses.

I can understand writing about the issue, but this will probably end up angering hezbollah and edging them on.

They write about this conflict like it's two super villains deciding who gets to fight the super hero.

~Keeper




I couldn't agree with you more. Now days it seems like the Press simply looks to shape and propel public oppinion and to create platforms for causes.

Lebanon used to be such a beautiful and peaceful country until the politics of Israel changed the political landscape in the Middle East.

A lot of people sure have had to pay a steep price for that, the Lebanese in many ways more so than others.

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You are both right and dead wrong.

Lebanon "USED" to be a beautiful place, UNTIL, the Muslium terrorist group Hezbolla was kicked out of Jordan and moved into Lebanon.

They terrorized the people their and have twice started wars with bordoring countries that have left Lebanon in ruin's.

If you want to blame those who are at fault for distroying Lebanon, "Look straight at thr Muslium terrorists who started the wars.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
Let us look at this logically...

The leader was working on removing the terrorists from Lebanons government.

He was telling Syria (one of Hezbolla's masters) to remove it's troops and influence from Lebanon.

Then he is killed
, and the terrorists, hezbolla attack Israel to start a war between lebanon and Israel.

Yes, who does benefit in all this:
1) the terrorist masters Iran and Syria
2) the terrorists Hezbolla, who want to take over Lebanon.


Or, even more logical:

Israel assassinates Hariri and puts out the word Syria was resposnible, knowing the backlash would remove Syrian forces from Lebanon. After that is done, they then create an incident whereby Hezbollah militia respond to an Israeli border incursion. Of course, as is always the way with Israel, they have the media clout to paint a different story making them the victims, again.

Unfortunately, Hezbollah and the Lebanese fought back harder than they anticipated so they bombed the crap out of civilian targets (another Israeli trait) before pulling back their troops.

They are itching to go back in for more territory and, more importantly, fresh water sources.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
Let us look at this logically...

The leader was working on removing the terrorists from Lebanons government.

He was telling Syria (one of Hezbolla's masters) to remove it's troops and influence from Lebanon.

Then he is killed
, and the terrorists, hezbolla attack Israel to start a war between lebanon and Israel.

Yes, who does benefit in all this:
1) the terrorist masters Iran and Syria
2) the terrorists Hezbolla, who want to take over Lebanon.


Or, even more logical:

Israel assassinates Hariri and puts out the word Syria was resposnible, knowing the backlash would remove Syrian forces from Lebanon. After that is done, they then create an incident whereby Hezbollah militia respond to an Israeli border incursion. Of course, as is always the way with Israel, they have the media clout to paint a different story making them the victims, again.

Unfortunately, Hezbollah and the Lebanese fought back harder than they anticipated so they bombed the crap out of civilian targets (another Israeli trait) before pulling back their troops.

They are itching to go back in for more territory and, more importantly, fresh water sources.


Clearly you have the muslium terrorist point of view down pat.

The problem is it is totally wrong.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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It is always Israel and another country or faction. The clue is staring you in the face. The entirely consistent element in every Middle Eastern issue is Israel. It is not complicated at all, mayhem erupts every time Israel is about to invade or attack. Hariri was killed a few months before the attempted Israeli invasion of the Lebanon of 2006.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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Mrmonsoon you seem to think everyone is a terrorist
As for this,too much speculation for me..but i'll also speculate and say i dont think they will cause any hassle on the border to divert attention.I do think we may see a scuffle by the end of the year,start of next though.Hezbollah hasn't been stocking up on weapons because its their hobby.Hopefully like last time they make Israel look like fools with all their fancy weapons mostly paid for with american tax dollars.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher
It is always Israel and another country or faction. The clue is staring you in the face. The entirely consistent element in every Middle Eastern issue is Israel. It is not complicated at all, mayhem erupts every time Israel is about to invade or attack. Hariri was killed a few months before the attempted Israeli invasion of the Lebanon of 2006.


In a sick way, you are correct.

Musliums and muslium terrorists are constantly starting wars, how uncommonly awear of you.

Puting two2 funtioning brain cells into operation we see, Hariri was killed and who benifited from this?

Killing the man who wanted to remove Syrian influence and troops from Lebanon.

The man who was going to remove the terrorists (Hezbolla) from lebonons government and maybe even the entire country.

So, hmmmm, who needed to kill him and who benifited from his death



Again, the truth "IS" staring me and the whole world in the face, Muslium terrorists....again.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Actually I would like to know where you get these suppositions from?

The Lebanese Civil War which started in 1975 was in large part due to a 100,000 Palistinian Refugees being driven at Israeli Gunpoint over the Lebanese border that created not only a burden on Lebanon's own infrastructure but added 10% to it's population in short order and upset a delicate political balance.

Hezbollah formed in Lebanon in 1982 in large part as a response to Operation Peace for Galilee the Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the subsequent backing of the Israeli Army of the Lebanese Christian Militia and it's wholesale masacre of Palistinian refugees in the Lebanese refugee camps.

Prior to that the Druze Militia under Wallad Jumblat was the most fierceom Militia Leader with the Christian Militia (President Gamal was Christian) having the second largest Militia, and the Shia and Sunni each had seperate Militia as did the Palestinians have a seperate Militia as did a few assorted non-religious groups.

This all occured well before Hezbollah ever formed in Lebanon and it formed as a result of well documented Israeli and Christian Militia attrocities during Operation Peace for Galilee.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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Actually I would like to know where you get these suppositions from?

The Lebanese Civil War which started in 1975 was in large part due to a 100,000 Palistinian Refugees being driven at Israeli Gunpoint over the Lebanese border that created not only a burden on Lebanon's own infrastructure but added 10% to it's population in short order and upset a delicate political balance.

Hezbollah formed in Lebanon in 1982 in large part as a response to Operation Peace for Galilee the Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the subsequent backing of the Israeli Army of the Lebanese Christian Militia and it's wholesale masacre of Palistinian refugees in the Lebanese refugee camps.

Prior to that the Druze Militia under Wallad Jumblat was the most fierceom Militia Leader with the Christian Militia (President Gamal was Christian) having the second largest Militia, and the Shia and Sunni each had seperate Militia as did the Palestinians have a seperate Militia as did a few assorted non-religious groups.

This all occured well before Hezbollah ever formed in Lebanon and it formed as a result of well documented Israeli and Christian Militia attrocities during Operation Peace for Galilee.





Sorry pro, go back to your history books.


Hezbolla formed in Jordan.
They did the usual muslium terrorist things, bomb and target civilians, murder, destruction and so on.

Jordan would not stand for this, good for them.

They started finding out who these terrorists were and began eliminating them and any and all relatives of them.

as this "WAS" extremely effective at removing the terrorists, they left Jordan and went into Lebanon where they continue to murder and kill.

Further, they have started two wars and caused untold death and destruction for Lebanon.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:09 PM
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Yes Jordon did a good thing and stood up to these terrorists. Lebanon is not so independent and has its own divisions anyway so Hesbollah can thrive there. Best bet is for the local nations to make the group move on again, send it home to Iran.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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Hezbolla formed in Jordan.
They did the usual muslium terrorist things, bomb and target civilians, murder, destruction and so on.

Jordan would not stand for this, good for them.


I believe you are referring to the Black September Palistinian Militant Group which while responsible for the Munich Olympic Attacks in 1972 and embroiled in conflicts in Jordan over Palistinian issues is not, was not Hezbollah.

Please provide a source for your information if you are that certain Hezbollah is just a continuation of Black September.

Since I can't find a History Book that supports your statement.



posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
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Yes Jordon did a good thing and stood up to these terrorists. Lebanon is not so independent and has its own divisions anyway so Hesbollah can thrive there. Best bet is for the local nations to make the group move on again, send it home to Iran.




Sorry, but that was just classic...

Yes, send em to Iran and Syria and then let them go back to their usual murdering/bombing and let Syria and Iran deal with em.




posted on May, 25 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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I am guessing you are having as hard a time to find a source on Hezbollah having formed in Jordan as I am?

Oh well, why let a few silly things like facts get in the way?




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