reply to post by jd140
I suggest you move to Deutschland then, to feel "safer."
"They do this in Germany."
Their "drinking age" is also 18.
You ever think of that?
Recent statistics show that in the 15 countries in the European Union, traffic accidents kill nearly 40,000 people each year, with about a quarter
of those deaths related to alcohol. "Binge drinking is rising all across Europe," said Berteletti Kemp of Eurocare. "It's the alcopop culture.
Adults don't drink these things -- it's young people.
Plus, this is America. And bloodtests are against my Constitutional rights, as a citizen; to not allow ANY blood withdrawal without a warrant.
Ironically, that's just what deputies plan to do. They'll actually drive to a judge's home for a signature and return to the checkpoint.
Talk about a circus act.?
If I was a judge, and you came to my house at 4:00AM, for a warrrant of a drunk driver, I'd hit you with a stick. Then go back to bed.
It shows how incompetent we are as a judicial system, imo. Seriously.
Pass laws like this, and we'll begin to fumble it around and screw it up even more, I promise. More drunk drivers will get their cases thrown out,
and avoid conviction simply beacuse the case of "blood tests" will prove not as conclusive (for conviction) as a breathalyzer. (read that link on my
Note all the flaws.
"You can't fake a blood test."
Yet another flaw, is that the poppy seed, yes as in poppy seed bagels, have proven medically that it can test positve for opiates.
In comparison with your "bubble gum theory."
Which btw, you might have had an argument 25 years ago when they had big clunky things, that didn't work nearly as well. Technology has allowed the
improvements (for those flaws).
Please, I'm not trying to sound like a wise ass either. This is a healthy and good conversation, and I'm valoring everyone's opinion.
I will muster my own thoughts and opinions as well, respectfully.
But I'm going to continue to rip this apart.
Have you atleast considered having a little intimate knowledge of this situation to feel (it should be pointed out) that people will be arrested even
if they do give blood???
If they get to the point of drawing blood, they aren't going to let the person simply drive away. They'll still make the arrest for suspicion and
impound the vehicle. Right?
And that's also the point, If a person wants to be uncooperative, deceptive to begin with, cuff him! Book him! Face the music in court! Good.!
In the first place.! Know what I mean?
"It would seriously cut down on drunk driving"
In recent years, many countries in Europe have cracked down on drunk driving and speeding by conducting road safety campaigns and installing radar
units on highways. How bout taking a similar approach??
Again, just a thought .
In addition, many European countries have tough drunk-driving ordinances that can result in immediate license suspension with little recourse. Not
like the US where a couple thousand dollars will get you off the hook, no matter how drunk you are.
Thse are the laws that we should consider harsher, and have positive statitistical results for repeat offenders.
. Which is very, very
There are many more logical approaches that can result (statistical)success of reducing drunk driving over blood tests JD140.
As for sobriety tests, I disagree. They DO work.
Try for yourself.
I'm pretty athletically inclined, and most of them I couldn't do. Drunk.
I was also unable to confirm that they actually do (mandatory) blood tests in Germany, can you or someone confirm? Any German residents?
Thanks in advance.
[edit on 28-5-2009 by Ben Niceknowinya]