I had a look at the helicopter and an airplane entirely built in Iran. They are not impressive and no different than what can be built in kit form in the UK. However, the benefits is in the development of an infrastructure that manufactures components for Iranian aircraft.

If the Iranians survive the current Israeli threat, they maybe able to sustain these industries and allow them to evolve.

Any 'second world' country can put their mind to building an aircraft entirely made at home but the final hurdle is sustaining and evolving the industry.

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A 40mm cannon with a 300 rounds / minute rate of fire? That's an excellent rate for a 40mm weapon...the WW-II vintage Bofers 40/56 could only manage 120 rounds / minute / barrel. Then again, the Bofers came in 4-packs. I can see a real use for this new fast 40 as a surface weapon, and I'm sure it has some anti-air capability (with radar fire control and proximity fusing, probably fairly good low-altitude capability). I'm not sure it has the capability to destroy cruise missiles though. That tends to be as much a function of training rate as anything else, and a 40mm is a fairly hefty hunk of iron.

I'd be more impressed with the auto-loading 100mm if the video didn't keep doing dissolves and fades after single shots. I'd like to see the thing sustain through a 10-12 round barrages before proclaiming it the Next Big Thing.

1 min 20 onwards shows teh gun with no cut/fade and the autoloader in operation

Well then the Iranians have managed to acheive 1960's technology WOO HOOO.
If you really get down to it its 1944 tech,
OOOhhhh Scared of that.

What about the mythical mass wave attacks of cruise missles.

How are they going to counter that, OH thats right only they have the ability for such actions.


Everybody seems to forget that the iranians sent un-armed children in wave attacks against the iraqi's

This may be a milestone for the Iranians but hardly any big shakes in the great scheme of things. We have seen it all coming out of Iran over the last couple of years (often reported on this Board)!

Stealth fighter planes, attack helicopters, nuclear subs, suicide regiments, high speed attack hover craft, high speed attack submersible attack boats, hyper sonic torpedoes, supersonic anti ship missiles, ICBMs, main battle tanks, anti tank missiles, child suicide fodder etc...

Much of it is over-hyped rubbish meant for an indoctrinated audience. The problem is teasing out the reality and practical from the fantasy and impractical.

I have no doubt that Iran has emerging capabilities and have a stated aim of being self sufficient in military production, but the reality is that Iran is not an advanced industrial nation with the capability to develop and sustain large sophisticated programmes which require a mature industrial base. If you take China, Russia and Korea out of the equation, where is the Iranian expertise in (say) missile development?

Regards

Not well versed in weaponry,but for a country that has so much sanctions on it i think Iran is doing a good job.Every country has to start somewhere and realising that alliances can be broken it is best to have as large a manufacturing base possible at home when it comes to your military imo.

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You might not be scared of the iranian military but the USM sure as hell is, notice-warning the israelis that they not dare attack iran whiloe america's bases are easy targets for iranian missiles, and so are an us ship cruising the persian gulf..they seem very scared to me.

Originally posted by punkinworks09
Well then the Iranians have managed to acheive 1960's technology WOO HOOO.
If you really get down to it its 1944 tech,
OOOhhhh Scared of that.

What about the mythical mass wave attacks of cruise missles.

How are they going to counter that, OH thats right only they have the ability for such actions.


Everybody seems to forget that the iranians sent un-armed children in wave attacks against the iraqi's

Originally posted by ominous
You might not be scared of the iranian military but the USM sure as hell is, notice-warning the israelis that they not dare attack iran whiloe america's bases are easy targets for iranian missiles, and so are an us ship cruising the persian gulf..they seem very scared to me.

I am not sure that is an accurate analysis of the situation. I think the US is more than capable of fending off Iranian missiles and I am sure certain sections of the US military would love to find an excuse to show just how ruthless and decisive they could be against another (yes, another) backward military, especially one that fights back for more than (say) a day.

The oft over-rated Israeli military would be over extended against Iran and the political fall-out of a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities would be political suicide for Israel. The thing that will make sure war does not happen will be pragmatism. Strip away all the rhetoric and flim-flam and what you have got is a growing sense that peace and stability is beginning to take shape.

Bad knews for the war-mongers...

Regards

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