reply to post by Psychonaughty
Actually I do believe in Karma. But not to the degree you describe.
If you stub your toe, it's obviously because you were not watching where you were going, and not that you are being punished by Karmic forces.
What goes around, may or may not come back around. I see Karma as more important than that. It may not respond to a small thing a human being may do
in the course of a day. It is not trivial. It is more important than that.
I do respect what you think, very much. To have a system of beliefs that you value is so much better than to have nothing.
And what I believe, and what you believe are not really mutally exclusive. They can exist together.
Think of all the components of yourself which work together on a daily basis:
Your physical/biological self. And the brain you have, and the reasoning ability you have been given to know to take care of that physical self.
Your intelligence; your brain. Your ability to reason. To make decisions which protect you. Humans have been given drives and the ability to
reason. We use that reasoning ability everyday. Does it fail at times?
Of course. Failures are a part of being human.
Your spiritual side: There are those of us who neglect it. Those of us who nurture it, try to feed it, try to stay tuned in to it. You do. I do.
Maybe it has taken us down slightly diffierent paths, but it seems to be working. Something that kept me jumping all the time and living in fear and
horror, would not work for me, personally. I would not function well as a person, as a professional, as a physical entity, or as a curious and
creative human, if I were afraid to act or think ,for fear of some great and intangible judge such as Karma, swooping down on me at any given moment,
because of some minor detail.I would live in fear, and I choose not to live in fear. Learning is a huge part of what we are. And in the course of
leaning, we make mistakes. So at times we make mistakes for a reason, that is, too learn. Not to be punished.
But if I deliberately tried to crush someone's spirit, shatter their dreams, or destroy them somehow? Well, yes. I think there would be dues to
Then there is science. It effects us in every way, from our climate, our weather, our research. Too many to ponder here.
But all of these, and other aspects also (our personality, our psychology,
our history, our creativity and inventiveness, our politics), all work together to make us the creatures we are. They work together. And these are
the reasons that human beings are such complicated, fascinating, "fabulous monsters".
Karmic and spiritual beliefs do not negate the physical and scientific part of us that is true. The physcial and Scientific aspects of us do not
the spiritual side of us, which is also true. IMO.
However, there is one area we do differ greatly on. You said "do not say......(whatever it was you told me not to say"). My thoughts and beliefs
are that I am an American woman, and consequently I may say whatever I wish. That too, is a part of my belief. I may disagree with other's opinions
and belief's, but I may not tell them not to say it. That could be.......bad Karma?
I'm just joking with that last remark. I wish for you the very best from all our many sides, and I wish it for me too. I do try.
Isn't that really all any of us can do? And of course, I mean really TRY.
There are people who say they are trying, and maybe even believe they are. But sadly no, they are not. Trying is a very active endeavor, and can
require a great deal of work. Trying is not for the lazy. But with that, I am "preaching to the choir". My best to you.