reply to post by DarrylGalasso
Your assumption is as follows "since we removed god from state the country has been in a downward spiral", thus that validates the need for God
(Christianity) in our society.
The only problem is that, that has nothing to do with what has become of our country. The information and facts are out there for those who look, and
that information shows that the society we are a part of has been in the making by a select few for hundreds of years. The same families that have
crafted our public policies and run us continually into boom and bust are still in power, thus to deduce that the separation of church and state is
the cause of our issues is a flawed theory at very best.
Can we prove that one stole the story from another? Or, is there a basic truth in them all?
Though a timeline might suggest the story was stolen/borrowed, might the original version (probably untraceable), be absolutely accurate? If so, it
may have only been perverted beyond recognition.
Let me answer for you, since Karl is probably tired of repeating himself.
If I come up with a story today, and tomorrow you come up with the same story, is that not proof that you stole my story, and thus AT BEST
your story is simply a copy of mine, regardless of whether mine is true or not?
I don't need someone to come up and tell me "I was with WTFover when he copied your story" to prove that, that is what you have done. I can simply
read your story and see it as a replica of my own, and thus you are a fraud.
Why can this same logic not be applied to religion? We have a group of people with a story, and then Christianity steals the story and changes 5% of
it, you only need as many brain cells as appendages to understand that it has been replicated. That is if your judgment hasn't been clouded by a
lifetime of brainwashing.
You made a few mistakes in your thinking though.
1. You assume there are other intelligent life in your argument. (Bear in mind I'm not saying there isn't)
2. You assume "insert your favourite God figure here" has not appeared to these aliens.
3. You assume these aliens are not followers of "insert your favourite God figure here"
Ok, well your right, we don't know that. But, lets look for a minute at what we do know.
THE BIBLE MAKES NO MENTION OF ALIENS, Don't you think, that would be a seriously note worthy mention?? If aliens exist and there is possibly hundreds
of other humanoid species, and god did infact create them all, don't you think it would have been nice of him to mention it?
Instead, he doesn't bother mentioning it, and when aliens are officially discovered you will have idiots running around suddenly changing their
interpretation of the bible so that it neatly fits with the current scientific knowledge of the existence of life. Don't you feel that's a bit too
convenient, just change things as you go to suit your agenda?
Also there are some things which you state as fact that I've never read about or heard of before.
For example, I've never heard of Buddha being crucified, dying & resurrecting. He supposedly died from old age or food poisoning (pork or mushrooms
depending on who's telling).
Your ignorance doesn't change facts. Regardless of what happened to buddha, he is only one of MANY pre-christian saviors that follows the same
You realize that when bringing so called 'knowledge' from a fictional book to a scientific based thread is both pointless and irrelevant right?
Personally the greatest irony of religion is it's claim of giving people power, when in reality it does the exact opposite.
People begin to "need" god in their life to accomplish anything, even though the power has been and always will be inside of them from the start.
All short comings can be blamed on "the devil", oh the "devil" made me do it, I was weak "god" please save me, "wash away my sins im a useless
Additionally, the brainwashing of religion forces people into faith based thinking rather than logical, fact based assumptions. People take the word
of those they trust in faith, rather than looking at the situation, asking original questions and arriving at original answers. How many cult suicides
have been a product of this thinking?
The one fact that the follower of any religion must admit, especially Christians is the fact that:
Religion has been the cause of death for more people on earth than ANY other cause PERIOD.
By looking at history it's plain to see that, if from the dawn of man there was never such an atrocious thing such as Religion there would have been
a lot less massacres, 'crusades', etc, and thus a lot less hardship and suffering across ages.
The Vatican, home of Christianity, is the wealthiest entity on planet earth, far surpassing states and corporations
Shouldn't the home of christianity being practicing what it preaches? Why is the Vatican not the poorest entity, after using it's wealth to end
starvation, and suffering world wide?
Why do we always hear about priests and others of even higher 'godlike' authority, molesting little kids and practicing homosexual
And we only hear about a SMALL percentage of actual cases, even the ones that see the light of day are quickly shoved under the rug. These are the
people you guys look upto? Molesters and pedophiles?
Enjoy your ignorance, and at the end of your life, when you realize you have spent it in a sheltered, ignorant fashion I hope you hold no regrets.
[edit on 24-5-2009 by king9072]